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Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-21 06:19
by hamish05064
Well honestly i never liked playing media class ever

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-21 10:42
by =-=kittykiller
Madar_al_Fakar wrote:Iraqi Insurgent's medic has no patches for himself... -_- (unless they are located in the "unarmed" variant of the medic kit which I never thought about choosing cuz UNARMED)
Are you aware ALT unarmed medic is best kit in the game

no 2 min till spawn as civi
can use all kit except syringe and be martyrd
if an entire squad goes alt medic u can deny caches for ages, protip deselect alt medic once u spawn as it so ure team mates can spawn with it

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-21 11:55
by LiamBai
I actually like playing medic, but only in squads where I know the people are decent and aren't going to get shot in stupid places. If somebody is communicative, helpful and has some situational awareness I'm happy to revive them. Reviving people who have no clue is just dangerous.

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-21 12:26
by ZektorSK
iglotruck wrote:Prove it.
I don't have evidence.. only my experience

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-22 12:44
by mries
Medic is a real fun and rewarding class to play if you have a good coordinated squad/SL. I really did like playing medic most times, until I have mastered myself with the LAT and that being my fav kit now.
If LAT is taken I take medic most of the time.

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-24 07:58
by PeppeJ
It's because people like getting kills, which is funny considering that's also your job as the medic, and you usually have the same gun as your squaddies anyway (in conventional forces at least). Securing the area is the most important thing before getting revives in and for that you need to shoot too. Sure there are cases where you get slightly less action as opposed to say a rifleman but it's not the end of the world.
Even though most medics don't get scopes it's still suprisingly easy to shoot accurately with iron sights/reddot up to 5-600 meters, all you need to is to not have a sensitivity so high you skip several pixels. Hell I prefer a reddot/ironsight over scopes pretty much any day and any map.

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-24 18:03
by Murphy
Not enough medics on your team, or in your squad? Be the solution you seek, and step up to take the role even if medics tend to eat a lot of flak from players, who usually got themselves shot up in silly locations (Oh you got shot by coax while crossing the open fields on Yamalia? Hold two minutes, I'm on the way! LEEEEERRRROOOOYY)

The medic role isn't easy and it's a fairly thankless job, but it is the single most important role in any squad. You could have a squad with 2 medics and all riflemen and I would bet my bottom dollar that squad will do better than one with AR, MMG, Sniper, Marksmen ,LAT ,Hat and all the other fun kits people seem to rush to grab first.

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-24 23:38
by Gerfand
I like to play as Medic, even if my play style is to try to run on front of my squad and give then Intel and if possible flank then...

But one thing is: some wounded people must know that they are dead, a good medic will know if you can be revived and yelling at him will not get you alived faster...

So a quick tutorial of how to be revived:
1- check if you squad is near you, if he is not don't even bother on calling a medic, just give up and spawn on the rally(you can ask) or a nearby FOB
2-if you are near you squad just call a medic if you know that is possible to be revived:
(how to know if you can be revived:
-Are you on the open and there a tank near you: dont call the medic
-Died on a roof were the only way in is a ladder on the open: II, unless if there no enemy near)

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-24 23:49
by Raklodder
I always make sure to play as a medic in Project Reality and Squad.

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-25 10:26
by paragonid
I'm surprised by amount of positive responses for the medic role.

I am personally a very aggressive player and find most fun and self-efficiency in spotting and killing enemies, I could be a good medic and I'm first one to pick up fallen medic, but it's just not fun for me to be one the rest of the time.

The less I like my team and my squad actions and decisions overall, the worse I feel about being a medic for them.

As a public servers squad leader, I find myself in need to search for somebody to take a medic kit almost each round. Most of people don't want to play as a medic and go for it only as a compromise to stay in coordinated squad.

Everyone who likes to play as a medic, please add me to friends and join my squads!

As for game mechanics, I find interesting idea of alternative medic kit, which doesn't have infinite healing bug, but instead 9 super patches, which heal 100% of health.
+ faster
+ self healing
- limited

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-26 11:02
by agus92
paragonid wrote:I'm surprised by amount of positive responses for the medic role.

I am personally a very aggressive player and find most fun and self-efficiency in spotting and killing enemies, I could be a good medic and I'm first one to pick up fallen medic, but it's just not fun for me to be one the rest of the time.

The less I like my team and my squad actions and decisions overall, the worse I feel about being a medic for them.

As a public servers squad leader, I find myself in need to search for somebody to take a medic kit almost each round. Most of people don't want to play as a medic and go for it only as a compromise to stay in coordinated squad.

Everyone who likes to play as a medic, please add me to friends and join my squads!

As for game mechanics, I find interesting idea of alternative medic kit, which doesn't have infinite healing bug, but instead 9 super patches, which heal 100% of health.
+ faster
+ self healing
- limited
Please don't feel offended, but seeing that you're Russian I assune that you play mostly on the russian server, that is not representative of PR gameplay state, due to it being quite a clusterfuck, at least all the times I've been there. In MIC INF Squads is not difficult at all get one medic (but sometimes you have to insist to get the second).

Of course the russian servers problems could happen entirely because of the EU players that doesn't speak Russian that join when there are no more popilated servers alive, and the sqs end not communicating at all. But thats another question (lets not derail the thread now) :) .

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-28 19:03
by Spuz36
Murphy wrote:Not enough medics on your team, or in your squad? Be the solution you seek, and step up to take the role
Yessss. This is what originally turned me on to the medic role. Everyone wants other kits that do the fancy thing. Medic is pretty fancy...I get to have another gun, another set of eyes/ears, another flag mover, another voice, right on my pos instantly if I can do my roll. This is big during close quarters exchanges where you may be surrounded. It also feels great to get teammates up and back to action faster to support your team. Aaand you get that chance to top the scoreboard with 0 kills and all brownie points.



Medic is also a good kit to go for right away in a new squad. Its available and you will have than one patch to heal if far from ammo/teammates. While it is an excellent squad role and should be used as such, it is great for a fledgling squad of 2 or 3.

If I'm not in a squad with buds and you need a medic, hit me up!

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-29 00:45
by Sgt.BountyOrig
I'll try and explain 'Why don't there medics now?'

Back when, around the time the medics could heal themselves, the bonuses were huge for absolutely everyone to be a medic. This in itself gave new players plenty of wiggle room to learn how to be medics in a deployment environment.

-Medic Kit becomes limited
Well now you can only have 1/Squad (6 player squads at the time), meaning the selected medic had to have a good sense of what they were doing immediately. This reduces the available 'pool' of PR players who were able to use the medic kit well in a squad.

-PR 0.95
PR had suffered a decreasing player pool since then, off to go and find better games for graphics or just a different kind of gameplay. This creates a vacuum in the roles of infantry officers, and various assets. Former medics who had played the game for a while become Officers, and the stricter gateway to learning medic play puts newer players off (it's not exactly hard, but there's a good few steps to do in the right order)

-PR Ticket shuffle
PR bumps up the number of tickets per team, owing to the fact that someone going wounded now costs a ticket. Costs two tickets to get another rifle back in a firefight? Deal! Players give up and respawn sooner than they would have spent the time waiting for the medic to safely arrive at their position. Now with 50v50 and size 8 squads, losing two or three squad members in a firefight essentially means you've lost the battle

-Here and now
So after all this, what's the point now? Medics have become almost useless to gameplay except in the rare situation you get one that knows what they're doing, and the whole enemy team doesn't seemingly be bearing down on your squad.

Now add on the fact that every time someone goes down, there's an interruption in the firefight of some whiny voice going 'meeeediiiic, meeddiiiiiiic, over here meeddiiiiic, get me up meeediiiiicccc'... it's a headache people don't want to have to deal with in an already difficult game. On top of that it's incredibly disorienting to the rest of the squad who might be trying to listen to the direction of enemy fire or footsteps/engine of a nearby enemy.

Sadly the people who would benefit most from hearing the grievances contained within that last paragraph are not interested in reading the paragraph, this forum, or even the PR manual. 'Being the solution you seek' isn't particularly viable because

-These people won't stop being annoying
-The more experienced medics are now taken up in other arguably more crucial roles

Yes the shortage is a problem, no I can't see a solution anytime soon

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-29 03:20
by Rabbit
Just need more murder medics!

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-29 08:50
by paragonid
agus92 wrote:Please don't feel offended, but seeing that you're Russian I assune that you play mostly on the russian server, that is not representative of PR gameplay state, due to it being quite a clusterfuck, at least all the times I've been there. In MIC INF Squads is not difficult at all get one medic (but sometimes you have to insist to get the second).

Of course the russian servers problems could happen entirely because of the EU players that doesn't speak Russian that join when there are no more popilated servers alive, and the sqs end not communicating at all. But thats another question (lets not derail the thread now) :) .
You're wrong, I almost never play on Russian server. I mostly play on any populated EU, sometimes US servers. I don't think Russians often playing on Russian server read this thread.

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-30 15:11
by iglotruck
Spuz36 wrote:
Good job. Quick tip would be to make a 90 degree angle between you and the guy you're healing, and focus on his feet. That way you won't get teamkilled by him if an enemy shows up and he has to fire his rifle.

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-04-30 18:35
by matty1053
I love playing medic. but it seems as a lot of medics I run into now do not bother healing anyone. They just run out trying to fight, die, expecting a revive from every other medic, blames the other medics for not doing their job, repeat.

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-05-01 21:42
by Madar_al_Fakar
matty1053 wrote:I love playing medic. but it seems as a lot of medics I run into now do not bother healing anyone. They just run out trying to fight, die, expecting a revive from every other medic, blames the other medics for not doing their job, repeat.
Luckily I meet those less often then the good guys :P but yeah, had an encounter yesterday an *** with an attitude like "Screw you, you're not in my direct path" (so he didn't want to walk like 20 meters to me even tough it was safe and I was in cover while dying) I was stunned by what fag he was/is (we were in the same squad too and nope he isn't a new player who doesn't know what he's supposed to do, he was just a genuine ***).

Re: Shortage of Medics

Posted: 2016-05-03 02:31
by Spuz36
iglotruck wrote:Good job. Quick tip would be to make a 90 degree angle between you and the guy you're healing, and focus on his feet. That way you won't get teamkilled by him if an enemy shows up and he has to fire his rifle.
Good one! Been on both ends of that haha.