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Posted: 2007-02-21 04:58
by Preston
I'm surprised that none of you still pointed out the real problem with OC.
A lot of you pointed out the fact that "heat causes fires" and "heat shortens the life"
What the REAL problem is when it comes to OC is people turn up the voltage to high ..... The more voltage you push through it the more heat it creates, and the more problems you have .......
Preston
Posted: 2007-02-21 05:03
by CENINJA
I have a
AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+
1 Gig of Ram
Windows XP
Geforce 6600 Gt
65 Gb HD
What would be a recommended settings, with 1280x1024 resolution, with the best picture possible, but with little lag?
Posted: 2007-02-21 05:06
by [PR]AC3421
CENINJA wrote:I have a
AMD Sempron(tm) 2200+
1 Gig of Ram
Windows XP
Geforce 6600 Gt
65 Gb HD
What would be a recommended settings, with 1280x1024 resolution, with the best picture possible, but with little lag?
Thats hard to say. Thats a high resolution for
your computer.
I would say mostly lows and a couple mediums?? not sure. I have no experience at optimizing it to run better on lower end machines as I never had to experiment with BF2 and lower end settings. Based off just your specs though I still say mostly lows-mediums and no AA.
Posted: 2007-02-21 05:09
by CENINJA
With no anti aliasing, because with 1280x1024, the pixels have barely any jaggies...
Posted: 2007-02-21 06:04
by Preston
The box im running now is .......
PICTURES:
http://www.gp-cycles.com/Pictures/cp1.JPG
http://www.gp-cycles.com/Pictures/cp2.JPG
http://www.gp-cycles.com/Pictures/cp3.JPG
http://www.gp-cycles.com/Pictures/cp4.JPG
Aspire (now apevia) Case
ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT ATX12V 620W Power Supply
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce SPP 100 ATX AMD Motherboard
EVGA 7900GTX 650/1600
* OVER CLOCKED TO 715/1780
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWINXP2048-3200C2
AMD Opteron 165 Denmark 1.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor
*OVER CLOCKED TO 2.8Ghz @ 1.31v !!!!
ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink
Four Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive as Raid 0+1 (1TB total space)
WD Raptor 150 GB, 1.5 Gb/s, 16 MB Cache, 10,000 RPM Set as swap file ONLY
Lodgitec G15 Key Board
Razor Copper Head Mouse W/on the fly sensitivity adjustment
Plantornics GameCom Pro1 Headset
I think thats it right now for this box ....
Oh Dell 24in Wide screen
I run all high settings w/ AA8X and AT16X
100FPS +
Preston
Now time to build the next

Posted: 2007-02-21 06:33
by Woody
SGT.Collado wrote:so as i was saying, overclocking kills your computer. Don't come whining when the firemen come in and extenguish your burning cpu -_-
Seriously, it shortens the life of your computer parts. You could say anything you want but it's the truth.
Thats actually really true. I took my CPU fan off yesterday and the top of the CPU had mended with the fan. I had to rip off the top layer of the CPU writing. Still works, but it scared me to death for a second.
Sorry if this is a lil bit off topic.
Anyways...
4 256 MB RAM(Soon to be 4 gigs, runs really slow right now)
AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+
SB X-Fi Audio [9000]
2 NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS (SLi Baby!)
Asus A8N-SLi Deluxe
And to top it all off, 32" flat panel Viewsonic.
Posted: 2007-02-21 06:40
by Sneak Attack
absolutely every setting on the highest it will go
Posted: 2007-02-21 06:48
by [PR]AC3421
Preston wrote:The box im running now is .......
PICTURES:
http://www.gp-cycles.com/Pictures/cp1.JPG
http://www.gp-cycles.com/Pictures/cp2.JPG
http://www.gp-cycles.com/Pictures/cp3.JPG
http://www.gp-cycles.com/Pictures/cp4.JPG
Aspire (now apevia) Case
ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT ATX12V 620W Power Supply
ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce SPP 100 ATX AMD Motherboard
EVGA 7900GTX 650/1600
* OVER CLOCKED TO 715/1780
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWINXP2048-3200C2
AMD Opteron 165 Denmark 1.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor
*OVER CLOCKED TO 2.8Ghz @ 1.31v !!!!
ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink
Four Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive as Raid 0+1 (1TB total space)
WD Raptor 150 GB, 1.5 Gb/s, 16 MB Cache, 10,000 RPM Set as swap file ONLY
Lodgitec G15 Key Board
Razor Copper Head Mouse W/on the fly sensitivity adjustment
Plantornics GameCom Pro1 Headset
I think thats it right now for this box ....
Oh Dell 24in Wide screen
I run all high settings w/ AA8X and AT16X
100FPS +
Preston
Now time to build the next
Do you frequent the OCforums?? You should check them out, cool place.
http://www.ocforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=105
Posted: 2007-02-21 06:49
by RikiRude
Jeez these rigs make me cry. I can't wait til I get a friggen job so I can get a new HD and more RAM!
Posted: 2007-02-21 12:11
by kruck
1.8ghz AMD Turion 64 (this is a laptop btw)
1GB RAM (dunno what kind)
Nvidia Go7300 (pants)
Everything (yes EVERYTHING) on low, draw distance 80% and still only push 30fps
Posted: 2007-02-21 12:20
by HAMAS_XXX
NICE SPECS OUTLAW22
ok my specs
E6600 2.6 core 2 duo
2 Gb Corsair DDR2 533 Mhz
2 x 7900 GTO 512 mb each
X - FI platinum
700 watt JEANTECH STORM PSU
dell 2407 WP A03 model ( 24 inch widescreen)
Logitech z 5500 5.1 speakers
I run at 1920 x 1200 resolution, with all graphics high and anti alising at 4 x.
All maps run fine and over 80 FPS on average
Mao Valley is the most intensive for my machine but I still get on avergae over 50 FPS here... when thers alot of smoke and I mean alot of smoke I can fall to around just over 30 FPS... AL Basrah is fine and I only suffer from server lag..
on a side note my 3d mark 2003 score is at 38,500 and 3d mark 2006 is just
over 10, 000..
cheers
Posted: 2007-02-21 12:46
by Jarek Mace
pssst I'm a hardware engineer (14+yrs).
Overclocking has 2 defined groups.
1.fsb/multiplier method - 99.9% safe. Worst case scenario is a BIOS reset.
2.voltage/fsb/multiplier - only safe if done correctly. Cooling proportional to voltage.
Other performance tweaks come under the overclocking umbrella, for example running memory with faster CAS/RAS than memory chips specified for.
Aside from overclocking many machines for friends, family and fun, I run dual xeons (2.66ghz) overclocked to 3.2ghz (fsb method-watercooled) and have done so with same CPU(s)/Motherboard and RAM for last 3 years. I dunno how long you want to keep your hardware but 3-4 yrs for a dual CPU system is plenty for me.
The damage caused by over voltage/heat method causes the silicon lattice to break apart, this inhibits electron flow = dead cpu.
The first method (fsb/multiplier) will generate more heat so need more cooling but only when the cpu is under load.
The second method will generate extra heat idle and under load, volt modding is better left to more experienced people.
The first method is similar to the one most commonly used to overclock video cards, this is where the bad rep for overclocking comes from. These GPU's are pretty much running near their max out the box (average) many people clock them up without any extra ventillation or understanding of what they are doing and heat kills the memory/card. CPU/GPU will take a lot more heat than memory IC's
Voltage modding can be done in a few ways, for newer boards (non intel chipset) the BIOS controls voltage regulation IC
For intel usually the method used is a pin bridging system on the cpu socket itself (wire mods) or a variable resistor added alongside the VRM.
In other words not for inexperienced people.
wow that was a long fkin post for me, matches the squad leader one. Will take me a year to be able to post again.
Posted: 2007-02-21 13:31
by Preston
Yeah that have good info there. I enjoy seeing what other people are doing and how it worked for them. Great site if someone is looking for info on how much OC performance they can get out of their stuff!
Preston
Posted: 2007-02-21 13:56
by Poi_Medic
My Specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Processor S939 Venice 2.4GHZ
Zalman CNPS9700NT Copper CPU Heatsink & Fan
ATI Radeon X1800XT 625MHZ 512MB 750MHZ 256BIT GDDR3
OCZ Performance PC3200 2GB 2X1GB
OCZ GameXStream 600W ATX12V
ASUS TA-210 ATX Mid Tower Case BLACK
Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
Razer Copperhead Anarchy Red
eDimensional's Audio FX Gaming Headset
ViewSonic VX922, 19" Extreme Gamer 2ms LCD
I run at 1280x1024 with everything on Very High and Antialiasing at X2. Looks very pretty when im playing Mao Velley. Every thing in my enviroment is bumbed maped. I run at a constant 80 FPS without running into any slow downs unless the server lags alot. My video card makes alot of difference when im playing any games and also the RAM. Plus with my monitor I do not notice any tpye of ghosting image in my screen. But my specs are getting old for newer games now, so its time to upgrade once my tax retures are done

Posted: 2007-02-21 14:03
by El_Vikingo
man, ghosting happens only happpens on 16 ms and above, there no need to over do it.1!
Posted: 2007-02-21 14:10
by wooly-back-jack
mines a cheapo Avidav 19" 25ms and I never get that (DVI mind)
Posted: 2007-02-21 14:16
by bigbossmatt
AMD 3700 @2.2
xfx 7600 gt 256mb
2x 1gb sticks of corsair ddr400mhz ram
on board sound
runs highest settings on everything at 1440x900 widescreen resolution
get fps from 50 to 100, when i record on fraps i play along at anywhere from 30 to 50 or more fps
Posted: 2007-02-23 02:57
by Preston
'[PR wrote:AC3421']-X2 4600+AM2
[email protected]
-Zalman CNPS9500 AM2 HSF
-NZXT Zero Full Tower(Amazing Case) 9 fans, 7 120mm fans - 4 side panel, 2 rear, 1 front, 1 80mm on bottom and top (this is not including 2 fans on PSU 1 120, my CPU heatsink fan 90mm, and my video card fan.)
-Gigabyte S5 series GA-M59SLI-S5 Nvidia 590
-Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 2GbOC@916Mhz
-eVGA 7950GT512mb (8800GTS coming soon for sure)
-X-fi Platinum
-Main HDD WD Raptor74Gb 16mb cache
-Storage 2 Maxtor 200gbSATA HDD RAID0
-Kingwin Mach 1 Modular 600 watt psu
-Logitech G15 KB/ G7&G5 Mouse
-CreativeTHX 5.1 surround~~~~Samsung 20.1in. 204B LCD 1600 x 1200 (not the usual 1680 x 1050 wich is slightly less pixels)
Also, just to note. Quad Cores are completly useless for gaming right now.

An intel x6800 dual core outperforms any quadcore OC or not in gaming as of now. most Intel dual cores ( Core 2 Duo) outperform both of there quad cores out in games, even an OC 6300. When true quad core chips come out (wich the Kentsfields are not) and games start taking full advantage of multi core cpu's then they will be worth something other than intense 3d rendering programs and film editing.
Also, for all of you who have 8800's no games ATM take advantage of DX10 ..... So its worth it to just wait until the prices come down some ......
Preston
Posted: 2007-02-23 03:05
by RikiRude
Is there anyone besides me that doesn't have an uber elite computer? lol
1 GB of ram and just a x800
Posted: 2007-02-23 03:17
by Preston
'[R-DEV wrote:Riki_Rude_BTYC']Is there anyone besides me that doesn't have an uber elite computer? lol
1 GB of ram and just a x800
with all the freaking complaints about lag, I'd say that most don't have a elite computer !!!!!
Preston