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robbo wrote:Meh i dont see why we cant have Poland as a bad guy its got an ex-soviet look about it.

Eh screw you we hate the commies! We love democracy and beer.

Poland would not be a good faction for the sole reason of not having enough weaponry, And who are we going to fight? China? Well maybe because they're commie. But realistically i only see poland fighting anybody other then some sort of "Communist Rebels who seek to return to the days of glory of the former Soviet Union" Or the current Belarus or Lithuanian Commie governments.(Revenge for all the years of soviet tyranny) Or someone else thats the same size(Figuratively speaking of course)

Long Bow wrote:You have now given birth to Counter-strike! You have completed the internet forming it into a complete loop, turning PR into CS

Noooooooooooooooooooo More of a PR style. Although on second thoughts, it probably wouldn´t be that good actually.

'[R-DEV wrote:dbzao']If you guys don't stop calling certain factions as "bad guys" I will close this thread.

Doesn't PR sort of demand "good" and "bad" guys? You can't have two "good guys" fighting, no? So wouldn't any new faction involve a placement as "good" or "bad"?

It's based on each one's perspective. No discussion here.

How can the be any good guys in a war? A guy who just saved my life by pwning someone trying to shoot me is still a "bad guy" because he took ones life... It's all upto perspective yes..

Anyways, how about a supercrook faction. With some evil fella planning to blow the world up just for the heck of it, and having a faction of joint "good guys" all equipped with ub3r1337M4p0wnz0rR1fl3s and handheld nukes who are trying to eliminate the evil fella..
lol that would be fun wouldn't it
J/ks

well he is right. Just looking at the maps, there really isn't many maps with the US/UK defending and the mec/pla attacking. Then again there are quite a few maps in which US is the attacker.
edit: talking about Masaq's post.

team1:

-MEC
-PLA
-insurgents
-RUSIA

teram 2 :

-US
-UK
-Polish
-Canadians
-rebels(to make them fight the russians)

Team 1:
MEC
PLA
Insurgents
Poland
Militia

Team 2:
UK
US
Canada
Russia

robbo wrote:Team 1:
MEC
PLA
Insurgents
Poland
Militia

Team 2:
UK
US
Canada
Russia

Seriously tell me why should poland go with the MEC and Pla? Why would they fight the US and UK?

JP*wasteland.soldier wrote:Doesn't PR sort of demand "good" and "bad" guys? You can't have two "good guys" fighting, no? So wouldn't any new faction involve a placement as "good" or "bad"?

To use non-contemporary examples (to avoid ANY possibility of people taking sides and having some kinda cow over who were the goodies and who were the baddies):

I'm pretty sure that both Cromwell's New Model Army and Charles I's Cavaliers both thought they were fighting a Just Cause (i.e.: the good guys).

Likewise, I suspect that both Napoleon's Imperial Guard and Wellington's Household Cavalry thought they were on the Right Side at Waterloo.

I'm almost certain that the Confederate states and the North both though they were fighting on the Good Side.

Warning: WW2 reference. Only read if you can read something regarding WW2 and not want to engage upon a massive and ridiculous debate over Facism/Stalinism/WhateverElseIsm:

And finally; Hitler claimed he was righting the injustices inflicted upon Germany at Versaille a decade and a bit earlier, whilst Stalin's Red Army were fighting a facist invader who'd broken a peace treaty made only a few years earlier...

Point being, in ideological terms the vast majority of wars are identical. Both sets of protagnosits are firmly in the belief that THEY are the ones fighting for honour/liberty/justice/truth/god/the last rolo. Even if that's not the case at the begining of the conflict, it usually is a short while after hostilities begin.

"Good guys" comes purely from one's viewpoint. The goodies in a Western film, (in their hayday), were traditionally the hard-working frontiermen being molested by the local inhabitants. Of course, the majority of people now would be likely to support the view that the frontiersmen were enroaching upon land that had belonged to the local people since time immorial.

Possibly the reason films such as Once Upon a Time in the West have lasted as iconic westerns whilst films depicting "Cowboys vs Indians" scenarios have become dated could be construed as a demonstration of this. In OUATITW, the villian is a businessmen determined to drive his railroad through land come hell or high water; a sentiment that we can still relate to nowdays. Also of course, it's because it's a damn good film. Mmmm, dusters.

Edit: Added Quote box around the spoiler-style text.

robbo wrote:Meh i dont see why we cant have Poland as a bad guy its got an ex-soviet look about it.

Go for it.

*Sigh*

My mistake, attempting to be lofty and highbrow on a gaming forum... Seriously Wolf, did you completely miss the point that from the MEC, PLA and Insurgent point of view, they're the good guys? I mean, there are over a billion people in China- 1/6th of the planet's population can't be wrong! *grin*

With regard to pairings, quite simply it's nonsensical to group all the sides. Involvement in any conflict doesn't necessarily mean that all the protagonists on any one "side" are in the conflict for the same reaons - USSR and USA in WWII being a case in point lol. Just because MEC and the PLA are both fighting the USA, it doesn't mean that they're not fighting each other, too.

Don't remember seeing anything in the BF2 briefings that suggested that the MEC and PLA were actually allied or working together, either. Oooh, could we have a full-blown global conflict and have MEC vs PLA? Obviously they'd need to go through India, first...

Time for Indian faction! *grin*

David.Podedworny wrote:Seriously tell me why should poland go with the MEC and Pla? Why would they fight the US and UK?

Well tell me why Russia would fight PLA, the question you should be asking is why not? Its sort of a Ex-Soviet Cold war country and it secures a deal with PLA and MEC to have access to unlimited Oil and Natural Resources and in return Poland takes up arms.

robbo wrote:Well tell me why Russia would fight PLA, the question you should be asking is why not? Its sort of a Ex-Soviet Cold war country and it secures a deal with PLA and MEC to have access to unlimited Oil and Natural Resources and in return Poland takes up arms.

Really? I dont think that would happen since poland hates commies.

'[R-PUB wrote:Masaq'](Finally- why the hell are the USA fighting a war on two fronts? Did they learn nothing from Germany?!)

Didn't you hear of the Pacific theater and the European theater? US won both fronts

Oh, and don't forget the Chuck Norris faction.

'[R-PUB wrote:Masaq']*Sigh*

My mistake, attempting to be lofty and highbrow on a gaming forum...

Yous's stuped, the U. S. of frigg'n A is are teh good guys! Did you not wacth any movies in teh the last 20 years?????


I completely understand what your saying and agree. We have to be carefull in assuming who is in the right. Perspective is everything, it all depends on what side your looking at it from.

Allot of the "good guys" have done some nasty things in war, no country is pure good throughout its history.

There should be a mod where every body goes around smoking pot and see who can get the most stoned and there is no good or bad. But lucky for us we live in a perfect world where anybody who is different is thought of as different. Its not the person's fault. Its the people.


Most of western socities idol is homer simpson. Eh problem...........masaq good show.

This thread is going to get closed soon... I can smell it...

Rambo Hunter wrote:Didn't you hear of the Pacific theater and the European theater? US won both fronts

They nuked one of them.