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Cyrax-Sektor wrote:That explains a lot. I can go full auto on an enemy's position, and he just jumps up and takes me out in one shot. :/

Cheating pigs have to ruin other people's game time in unranked mods. Phail.

I never really use full auto, and youre giving away your position so they may not be cheating.
Ive nothing to back this up with, but I cant imagine that too many people use cheats in PR.

To tell y'all the truth, I always turn 180 and spam bullets at someone that just shot at me (even if I can't see sh!t), it's a common reaction because it's 90% of the time the best.
However, that is only in CQB... If they headshot you right after being shot in long range fire fights (100m+), it's 99.99% likely they're using the trick.

Good luck fixing that issue, only real deal (fair) players shall prevail!

they lucky that they know how to disable these annoying shaders..its give them a very big advantage..

They are NOT lucky; they're cheating. If I see anyone posting up details of how to do it they'll be issued a Section 6 ban from these forums, as far as I'm concerned.

UK Tactics & Teamwork are reviewing PB screenshot files - if we see anyone without the shaders on when there's clearly rounds landing around them, we'll be taking action.

Well, this is explains why I've been feeling that some people have been more than a little "lucky" after proning and returning fire...

'[R-MOD wrote:Masaq;640389']They are NOT lucky; they're cheating. If I see anyone posting up details of how to do it they'll be issued a Section 6 ban from these forums, as far as I'm concerned.

UK Tactics & Teamwork are reviewing PB screenshot files - if we see anyone without the shaders on when there's clearly rounds landing around them, we'll be taking action.

Thank god... I mean Masaq
I hope more server admins will do the same.

Many times I did encoutered players that evidently should be supressed but they didnt. And they just headshot me.

I know of couple ways to disable it(as do DEV's), but Im not doing it. Why? Because the DEV's did it for a reason. Realism. I love the new supression effect. And I often use it. I dont understand people doing it. They not cheating others... they cheating themselfs that they're better than others. Making their miserable life better for themself. Rather than practise and improove their skills they simply cheat.

To all you do cheat. There is no way to turn on the cheats in real life... so good luck being first in 100m run, passing an exam or getting laid. Good luck.

Warmagi wrote: Many times I did encoutered players that evidently should be supressed but they didnt. And they just headshot me.

Again this is very possible without cheating - it should be the admins with the info that they have, that decide if someone is cheating.

Given the fact that this is really simple to do. I don't see why advertising it is going to help prevent people from doing it.

Engineer wrote:The problem is that the suppression effect doesn't work for me. No, I haven't altered or disabled anything, it just doesn't work.

But I suppose I'm just collateral damage...

Delete everything in your shader cache folder; this will force the game to re-optimize shaders thus giving you the full supression joyfulness

[R-MOD]Masaq wrote:Delete everything in your shader cache folder; this will force the game to re-optimize shaders thus giving you the full supression joyfulness

Worked for me. I wondered why I didn't have the new effect after my first install.

spacemanc wrote:Again this is very possible without cheating - it should be the admins with the info that they have, that decide if someone is cheating.

Ofcourse it is possible. I did it many times just by pure luck that the first shot deviated to my enemies head. And ofcourse that only admins whos got means of actually detecting it should decide.

but on the side note there is difference between one shot at you turning around and headshot someone and hail of bullets landing near you, you calmly turn and headshot.

'[R-MOD wrote:Masaq;640389']They are NOT lucky; they're cheating. If I see anyone posting up details of how to do it they'll be issued a Section 6 ban from these forums, as far as I'm concerned.

UK Tactics & Teamwork are reviewing PB screenshot files - if we see anyone without the shaders on when there's clearly rounds landing around them, we'll be taking action.

allmighty masaq
the problem with the screenshots is.. you have to find screens where the player is already suppressed

spacemanc wrote:ah ok - but dont get the other bit. If someone shoots at me I often turn, go prone and then headshot them, so I presume you mean something different. If theres some kind of cheat - plz dont explain it - youll be explaining it to everyone.

I didn't mean shoot 1 bullet at you, but continuously shooting bullets at you. This should trigger the suppression effect (aslong as the bullets land close) and prevent you from even seeing where I'm shooting from. Yet still many people manage to magically shoot me within one or two seconds from a long range, in a situation where they should be pretty much fully suppressed and they didn't even know where I was before I started shooting.

The suppression effect, when triggered, should make it pretty much impossible to return accurate fire over medium to long ranges.

Saint wrote:allmighty masaq
the problem with the screenshots is.. you have to find screens where the player is already suppressed

exactly, it's going to be hard to find someone with it off through the pb screenshot, you can't be exactly sure when rounds are landing near them.

Lmao, I've must been drunk or something, edited, may edit the quote out of your post?

Saint wrote:allmighty masaq
the problem with the screenshots is.. you have to find screens where the player is already suppressed

And the second problem would be. Whats with the guys who dont even know the are "cheating". Those guys who start the game on the same way like thousand times before so the dont even know are using a now bug? Because not every PR Player will see this thread.

Any way this would be a Witch-hunt.

So the only workable solution would be to disable this effect up to the bug is gone.

hall0 wrote:And the second problem would be. Whats with the guys who dont even know the are "cheating". Those guys who start the game on the same way like thousand times before so the dont even know are using a now bug? Because not every PR Player will see this thread.

Any way this would be a Witch-hunt.

So the only workable solution would be to disable this effect up to the bug is gone.

No way to do this by an accident.

Launching by the old shortcut doesn't work and anyone willingly using the other way without knowing about he's cheating gotta be stupid. It takes more than twice as long this way.

And no, I don't want to see the shaders gone.

Even if there were a way to, "do it by accident".
By now everyone that plays PR is aware of the fact that they should be having a Suppression Effect (SE) triggered when someone is landing shots very near them in game. If they are playing and they are NOT getting the SE then they should log out of the game and see if they can figure out what is wrong.
If a player is playing and they suddenly realize that they are not having the effect triggered, but then continue to play. They are in fact cheating, and at that moment they are aware that they are cheating. Either way they should be dealt with swiftly and sternly.

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As for looking through screenies - yeah, it's not easy.

1) Find a shot which shows rounds landing around a player that should probably be supressing them.
2) Search for more screenies of that player (or tell the server to take them next time they're on) and check if they ever seem to get the shader.
3) If needed, catch them online and shoot at their feet with a friendly whilst taking screenshots via PB.
4) If still not showing signs of supression, it's probably something dodgy.


So no, not easy. Very hard, in fact. But still doable and still worth doing. Only takes a few guys to get caught out before other people might wise up to the fact they're cheating too.