Disabling PR shaders

Post by **Jaymz** » 2008-03-28 07:38

It has become commonly known that the shaders run through the PR.exe file can essentially be turned off by altering how PR is run. No matter how simple it is to achieve this, it is considered cheating.

We, the Dev team, would like to state that we completely condemn users altering the shaders used in PR which can lead to them having a great advantage over honest/teamwork orientated players which have made the PR community what it is. We are openly declaring that any attempt to remove the new shader effects (suppression/near-death) is not only a cheat, but a complete insult to the people who worked extremely hard to have them integrated into Project Reality. Now, this is not a thread for debating the legitimacy of the suppression effect, it is an announcement that anybody altering the game to get rid of it is cheating and in that manner, it is not different to an aimbot or view distance cheat.

Note: In future builds changes will be made to prevent cheating in this manner.

Razick · Post by **Razick** » 2008-03-28 07:59

well the fact that they are willing to cheat in the first place makes me think that theyre actions will not change after reading this in any way. Is there anyway to detect if it has been turned off at all?

naosednax · Post by **naosednax** » 2008-03-28 08:09

is there any way for admins to weed out users using the edit?

Shotgun · Post by **Shotgun** » 2008-03-28 08:21

You serious!

Why would you play this game if you dont like the realistic things about it.

Hopefully you can weed out these people and slap and big fat SHAME ON YOU sticker on then

TY2D2 · Post by **TY2D2** » 2008-03-28 08:38

Wait, how do we do this???

[gets out notepad]

J/K fellas

Maybe this explains why it seems when I shoot some people they can still immediately turn and take me out... hmmm

Edit: Maybe it would be wise to not even publish a thread like this as it will only alert more people to the exploit and could create more cheaters?

HughJass · Post by **HughJass** » 2008-03-28 09:04

TY2D2 wrote:

Maybe this explains why it seems when I shoot some people they can still immediately turn and take me out... hmmm

Made a thread about making the suppresion effect even more extreme because of those situations. 1 person replied

General_J0k3r · Post by **General_J0k3r** » 2008-03-28 09:43

good to know man. thx jaymz for the info. that explains some stuff ive been noticing lately. hope you guys can stop em.

Saint · Post by **Saint** » 2008-03-28 11:01

Thanks Devs for this statement. But do us all a favour when it is so simple to turn of the shader.. bring a fasthotfix for this "cheating" to keep the game more balanced.
I would suggest a patch where you disable the suppressing effect. You can reintroduce it in 0.8 when you find a way to prevent that those cheating f***ers destroing the game so easily!

Fatal-M · Post by **Fatal-M** » 2008-03-28 12:21

Nice To Know About This ! i actuely didnt know that it could be changed ! so u might have made even more people know about this

, cheating is bad ! Just play fair and team-play well !! thanks for the info ...

space · Post by **space** » 2008-03-28 12:34

As others have said this is thread is probably just letting more people know about it, and the ones were using it already are hardly going to stop because of this thread. What does turning the shaders off do? Leave a wire drawing so you can see through everything or just stops suppression? If its the first, it cant be much fun playing like that, and if its just the suppression its not a massive advantage. You can still just about shoot people and take them out when the suppression effect is on I find as long as you saw them before your suppressed. ( I can see people starting to scream " omfg haxor!" now whenever theyre shot )

mammikoura · Post by **mammikoura** » 2008-03-28 12:52

^^ just turns off the suppression. But it IS a huge advantage, right now we are seeing those 'turns 180 degrees after being shot at, goes prone and headshots you' type of players. But at least the way to do it isn't common knowledge yet, though I still do think that this thread wasn't such a good idea since now more people know about this.

Sabre_tooth_tigger · Post by **Sabre_tooth_tigger** » 2008-03-28 12:55

Admin can take a screenshot through pb, it might show the cheat and allow action to be taken that way

Pluizert · Post by **Pluizert** » 2008-03-28 13:11

spacemanc wrote:As others have said this is thread is probably just letting more people know about it, and the ones were using it already are hardly going to stop because of this thread. What does turning the shaders off do? Leave a wire drawing so you can see through everything or just stops suppression? If its the first, it cant be much fun playing like that, and if its just the suppression its not a massive advantage. You can still just about shoot people and take them out when the suppression effect is on I find as long as you saw them before your suppressed. ( I can see people starting to scream " omfg haxor!" now whenever theyre shot )

Exactly. When i'm encountering enemy and he fires first and i get the supression effect. Of course i go prone and empty my magazine on the position where he is/was shooting from...only then there's chance of survival. I'm not gonna die without resist, at least let m bleed!

space · Post by **space** » 2008-03-28 13:13

mammikoura wrote:^^ just turns off the suppression. But it IS a huge advantage, right now we are seeing those 'turns 180 degrees after being shot at, goes prone and headshots you' type of players. But at least the way to do it isn't common knowledge yet, though I still do think that this thread wasn't such a good idea since now more people know about this.

ah ok - but dont get the other bit. If someone shoots at me I often turn, go prone and then headshot them, so I presume you mean something different. If theres some kind of cheat - plz dont explain it - youll be explaining it to everyone.

Post by **Spec** » 2008-03-28 13:23

Good luck getting that fixed. Its a shame that some of the people playing a game like PR are cheaters, why dont they keep playing 'nilla or something else?

Mora · Post by **Mora** » 2008-03-28 13:26

Even if i wanted to cheat with this my screen gets all focked up cuz ive widescreen and running it to the shortcut only prevents the issue so there is not really a point to use it for me anyway..

Jagular · Post by **Jagular** » 2008-03-28 13:32

is there any way for admins to weed out users using the edit?

YES
through md5tool checks

Cyrax-Sektor · Post by **Cyrax-Sektor** » 2008-03-28 13:37

That explains a lot. I can go full auto on an enemy's position, and he just jumps up and takes me out in one shot. :/

Cheating pigs have to ruin other people's game time in unranked mods. Phail.

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-03-28 13:43

It would be great to have PunkBuster check this.

At least it would be there for something better then kicking innocent players for ridiculous things.