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Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 07:36
by Rhino
sniperrocks wrote:I apologize, but I must resurrect
Especially since PR 0.9 is coming out, I would like to add some suggestions that could make maps that actually look like China!
Don't get me wrong, I love the maps currently featuring the PLA. I don't want to give a bad impression or have others say "do it yourself" because to tell you the truth...I'm horrible with the BF2 editor. :\
I will just name some small (or big) additions that could potentially help new PLA maps (hoping it comes out in 0.9!) look more realistic!
1. Pollution
Yes, China is quite polluted. I been to China a couple of times and I have to say, I never seen a clear blue sky before.
These two reference pictures are good examples of what I am talking about
http://www.photoeverywhere.co.uk/east/c ... n01438.jpg
http://www.atlasnetwork.org/networknews ... f_smog.jpg
On a better day:
http://www.china-tour.cn/images/China_P ... Museum.jpg
Operation Blue Pearl seems to have the right idea
http://forum.i3d.net/attachments/main-b ... een009.jpg
2. Wide roads
With a huge population, there's bound to be wide roads.
Most main roads include 2-3 lanes on both sides, if not more
http://www.treehugger.com/china-traffic-j01.jpg
Then, on both sides nearest to the buildings, there is usually a bike lane making the road even wider
http://www.wisechat.com/images/China_1419.JPG
http://www.asianews.it/files/img/CHINA_Bike.jpg<-- notice the trees!
3. Buildings
Of course, due to China's massive population, not a lot of people live in houses, but rather apartments. And for sure, no one lives in houses as shown in BF2
Mentioned before, huge skyscrapers do not enhance game play, which is true. But there are cities in China where there are buildings only 5-10 stories tall
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/571161 ... 4B24B4128C
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/533198 ... 4B24B4128C
^ These are similar to the MEC buildings
I hope this helped! I also hope to see a future PLA map!
so your basically suggesting a Chinese City map with high rise buildings since all your points have pretty much no relevance to any other type of map
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 08:07
by jojomeirenpin
about Asian rural area maps,we think we may check the CQB mod from Japanese players,which is indeed fantastic,fighting terro in the downtown
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 08:26
by Snazz
Based on the available statics and the limitations of the engine, rural China is the most feasible environment.
You could make a Muttrah/Ramiel sized Sunset City, but nothing close to the real Shanghai/Beijing.
IronTaxi's WIP map Jhanzou uses new statics that fit in with the vanilla ones to create an old-style Chinese town, so efforts are being made.
SleepyHe4d wrote:Edit: Well **** I didn't even realize this thread was necroed. I guess that completely destroys any thoughts I had.
Lol, so you stand by the claim that the PR forums have "completely devolved into a bunch of elitist pricks"?
BTW, have you read your PMs or played 0.87 yet?
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 09:19
by SleepyHe4d
Snazz wrote:Lol, so you stand by the claim that the PR forums have "completely devolved into a bunch of elitist pricks"?
BTW, have you read your PMs or played 0.87 yet?
No, no, no. I'm saying since those posts were so long ago, they hold no meaning on how the forum is now. Even if the thread was a recent thread though, I don't think the forums are like that because of those two posts that saved it. Was just saying the first few posts seemed very elitist prick to me and at first glance made the whole forum seem like that.
Also, no, I didn't notice I had any pms. I'll check them out and I'll even try out .87 if I get the time to freakin install bf2 and patches, then DL and install PR. ><
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 10:07
by TheLean
Yes, more maps of what china really is and not the stereotypical western idea of china would be cool. But this is of course important for every map there is. Maybe the china maps is a little bit worse in this aspect than the middle eastern maps as I know many of them like Fallujah is made with a real place in mind.
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 10:42
by HughJass
shameless plug
its probably not what people have in mind..
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 13:55
by sniperrocks
[quote=""'[R-DEV"]Rhino;1205225']so your basically suggesting a Chinese City map with high rise buildings since all your points have pretty much no relevance to any other type of map
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Well, not really xD I know that high rise buildings really wouldn't help the game, I suggesting more of a neighbourhood/market kinda thing. Like buildings aren't too tall, probably around 5 stories tall max. As for pollution and wide roads, it's okay right?
[quote="HughJass""]
shameless plug
its probably not what people have in mind..[/quote]
WHOA! I think west city has the idea I'm trying to convey, maybe without those olden day houses though
The housing blocks are dead on! For the first one, if you put garages under every window on the ground floor (apparently that's a way to market in China) it would look just like it!
I love the map!
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 19:07
by Redamare
yea i agree i feel like the China maps are being niglected
new china maps need to be created ... where china DOESNT fight the USA ..... we arent at war with china ... YET
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 19:25
by Expendable Grunt
Originally, I was going to do a Chinese insurgency map, with what boils down to the militia (with Chinese voices and skins) vs the PLA. It was to represent an uprising of some kind as a response to US/UK invasion.
However, the idea died because a few people reminded me it might make the Chinese government block us out, and I don't want to ruin it for the Chinese community members (all 3 or 4 of them I've seen).
M.
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 20:09
by Napoleon_TR
give up this jungle map's..
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 20:34
by Herbiie
This thread made me laugh.
Most of china IS jungle
It's dotted with a few cities connected by major roads.
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:11
by Expendable Grunt
Most of China is desert and temperate deciduous forests.
M.
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:14
by Herbiie
Expendable Grunt wrote:Most of China is desert and temperate deciduous forests.
M.
desert?
You sure?
Check google maps - since when was desert green?
Forest i'll grant you - though I kinda meant that with Jungle (forest to me isn't like the chinese forests)
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:21
by DankE_SPB
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:27
by Herbiie
Where did you get that photo from Danke?
China ISN'T Desert. It's just a fact.
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:31
by Bellator
Expendable Grunt wrote:Originally, I was going to do a Chinese insurgency map, with what boils down to the militia (with Chinese voices and skins) vs the PLA. It was to represent an uprising of some kind as a response to US/UK invasion.
However, the idea died because a few people reminded me it might make the Chinese government block us out, and I don't want to ruin it for the Chinese community members (all 3 or 4 of them I've seen).
M.
You could still do some kind of Muslim insurgents vs Chinese forces arrengement. China has plenty of Muslims in its neighbourhood. And not all Muslims would be aligned with the (apparent) MEC/China alliance.
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:32
by rampo
Herbiie wrote:Where did you get that photo from Danke?
China ISN'T Desert. It's just a fact.
Satelite images sqrew the colors a little
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:36
by Herbiie
rampo93(FIN) wrote:Satelite images sqrew the colors a little
Not that much.
I've been to china once, and I've watched Paul Merton in china - never once did he go in a desert, or past one, and he travelled all over the country. mountains, fields, cities, forest, and mountains = china.
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:41
by rampo
Herbiie wrote:Not that much.
I've been to china once, and I've watched Paul Merton in china - never once did he go in a desert, or past one, and he travelled all over the country. mountains, fields, cities, forest, and mountains = china.
Just compare the picture by you to danke's picture and you can see even your picture does have desert in it, the color's just a tad different
Re: China maps that look like China
Posted: 2009-12-12 21:43
by Herbiie
rampo93(FIN) wrote:Just compare the picture by you to danke's picture and you can see even your picture does have desert in it, the color's just a tad different
A tad. Not much though - it's almost completely Forest or city - if we had a Chinese desert map it would be stupid. Someone can make one if they want though. A Chinese urban map would be pretty cool though.
