Khamisiyah, the new "Kashan?"

[nAyo]

So long story short, we will be removing Kashan at some point in the future.

This is by far the worst thing I have heard in my 6 years of PR.

Why should it be removed? if it's 'hated' as you say then admins just don't suggest it on their server? What will it change to remove it, servers with people willing to play it can play it, and others just don't!

Maps come and go, but very popular maps aren't removed (just take muttrah), kashan being one of them. It's either people love kashan or hate it, there is no middle. Therefor you'll obviously hear a lot of people who hate it, while there is actually another big part that considers it an awesome map.

I don't know if I am the only one, but to me kamisiyah is nothing like kashan, I can't even understand it is the one supposed to replace it. Just the fact that kashan has a gameplay focused on the bunker complex surrounded by some high terrain makes it unique, and by far not similar to any other map on PR!

Kamisiyah is more of a mix between Al Kufrah and Burning sands in my opinion.

[ma21212]

AFsoccer;1940996']You guys crack me up. For years we heard complaints about Kashan -- how horrible it was but also how it was overplayed because it was one of the few large desert combined arms maps. SO... we sought out to make a better one. We took the same concepts:

• US vs MEC
• Combined Arms
• Desert
• Bunkers
• Oil Fields
• "North Village"

... and the result is Khamisiyah. In addition, we tried to make it as friendly for infantry as is possible for a large desert combined arms map, and thus the extra terrain variations, bushes, etc.

So long story short, we will be removing Kashan at some point in the future. There is no need to have two maps with so much similarity (and thus two maps that we have to update). Lastly, Kashan is horribly showing its age. It served its purpose but PR does not keep maps forever (think back at all the maps that have come and gone) because it bloats the files and requires too much effort from the DEV team to maintain, update, de-bug, etc. Instead, we can focus our limited time on new maps and keeping them bug free. We understand that no one map will make everyone happy and everyone has their favorites but Kashan will be removed at a future date (TBD). That shouldn't surprise anyone.

Remove one of the maps that defines what PR is, this is a good idea.

[Murphy]

Good riddance, Kashan has no more surprises left (except MEC clown car racing in front of enemy tanks/strykers) and it has been in heavy rotation for way to long. I shudder every time Kashan is played because we all know the inf will have no fun and armor/cas will dictate success or failure EVERY TIME.

[atom9[CH]]

If you remove kashan so you have to remove muttrah too. Is a stupid idea to remove kashan in my opinion

[Wheres_my_chili]

Yes!!! No more kashan!

[ExeTick]

Kashan in my opinion need to get little bit more infantry friendly and some tune up on west side.

need a little bit more sand dunes like khamisiyah.

[Phoenixo_Idaho]

This is by far the worst thing I have heard in my 6 years of PR.

Why should it be removed? if it's 'hated' as you say then admins just don't suggest it on their server? What will it change to remove it, servers with people willing to play it can play it, and others just don't!

Maps come and go, but very popular maps aren't removed (just take muttrah), kashan being one of them. It's either people love kashan or hate it, there is no middle. Therefor you'll obviously hear a lot of people who hate it, while there is actually another big part that considers it an awesome map.

I don't know if I am the only one, but to me kamisiyah is nothing like kashan, I can't even understand it is the one supposed to replace it. Just the fact that kashan has a gameplay focused on the bunker complex surrounded by some high terrain makes it unique, and by far not similar to any other map on PR!

Kamisiyah is more of a mix between Al Kufrah and Burning sands in my opinion.

I support this idea !

[Gracler]

Kashan is the most simple map there is in PR at the moment. Simple map creates simple strategies and linear gameplay. Khamisiyah fixes this although it needs more balancing and play-testing before it gets really good.

Kashan has been used as a training map for a long time and it never really got above the "training" feeling for me. It just isn't detailed enough to offer any other strategy than rush the bunker if your inf.... and if your in a vehicle... shoot first.

I won't miss kashan for 1 second.

Next wish would be that Muttrah got more building variation than "wraparound" and "T-shaped" since the fights in those are getting really old as kashan.

[WarEagle751]

Instead of getting rid of Kashan desert, why don't you guys fix it up and make it all new again. Add a village or a city in the middle for infantry or something to make it fresh.

[matty1053]

Well, you guys should do a dev blog on when Kashan will be removed.

I would love to have a 100p Event that would be like: Last match of Kashan.



Well, Khamisiyah is probably my favorite map on 1.0 now.
Then you got Burning Sands... ♥

[Hulabi]

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[Maj.Osama]

sad to hear about kashan being removed , in my opinion kashan is way different than khamisiyah for having a mountain that is a strategic move if you control it , cause it overview a 2 flags , also unlike the new map which makes MEC players rush one flag and win as simple as that .

[Predator.v2]

We understand that no one map will make everyone happy and everyone has their favorites but Kashan will be removed at a future date (TBD). That shouldn't surprise anyone.

True story, bro?

[BloodyDeed]

This is not true, Kashan is not going to be removed anytime soon.


Btw, I don't wanna fall AFS in the back, there are thoughts about removing it obviously. I just want to mention that we don't remove it as long as people like to play it and it fits our standards and gameplay.
While we can argue about the level of detail that map offers, I really like the combined warfare aspect Kashan has.

[Vista]

BloodyDeed has our back.

[Brainlaag]

This is not true, Kashan is not going to be removed anytime soon.

Bloody for president!

[Hulabi]

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[Sgt. Mahi]

[quote=""'[R-DEV"]BloodyDeed;1941251']
While we can argue about the level of detail that map offers, I really like the combined warfare aspect Kashan has.[/quote]
This

[quote="Maj.Osama""]kashan is way different than khamisiyah for having a mountain that is a strategic move if you control it [/quote]
... And this

Kashan is an overplayed map but is one of the best maps that works for combined warfare and teamwork at the same time. The only really flaw about Kashan is the US Outpost (Last US flag).. That flag is a great example that Kashan may be too poorly detailed since it's just a small compound surrounded flat terrain and no cover.

[AFsoccer]

Not really appreciating the course this is taking, so locking.