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Posted: 2007-06-26 05:02
by wushu1
Lothrian wrote:I dont know ... some of the older military aircraft are quite reasonable second hand, and probably are a lot more exciting.

Example 1 - MIG 21

Holy **** are you serious?

I have half a mind to buy just because its that cheep......

Posted: 2007-06-26 05:12
by carld2002
The fact that the chair in the first youtube video was powered by a motor was pretty useless.

The same can be done by basically building a stick onto the bottom of your joystick and mounting it on the same kind of frame.

You could do it for less than $50... probably much less.

Posted: 2007-06-26 10:29
by Red Halibut
Carld2002, there is a big difference between the two. The motorised one is taking actual flight data from the sim and using washout routines to simulate G-forces.

For example, if you stall the plane, no matter where you put the stick, the chair would point nose down.

In terms of immersivity, that is a big improvement on the old stick and pivot.

Posted: 2007-06-26 12:43
by carld2002
Red Halibut wrote:Carld2002, there is a big difference between the two. The motorised one is taking actual flight data from the sim and using washout routines to simulate G-forces.

For example, if you stall the plane, no matter where you put the stick, the chair would point nose down.

In terms of immersivity, that is a big improvement on the old stick and pivot.
I saw that but....
I don't stall

Seriously though in cost terms, i'd take the mechanical one.

Posted: 2007-07-09 18:02
by Sun Tzu
For anyone who is interested I wrote an article about how I constructed the chair. It was published in the July issue of "Computer Pilot" magazine.

http://www.computerpilot.com/content.php?pid=4&mid=115

Third article from the top. Just if anyone is interested.

Posted: 2007-07-09 18:18
by Leo
wushu1 wrote:Holy **** are you serious?

I have half a mind to buy just because its that cheep......
Maintenance fees, airport fees, and hangar fees would add up fairly quickly.

Posted: 2007-07-10 03:52
by wushu1
Leo wrote:Maintenance fees, airport fees, and hangar fees would add up fairly quickly.
But its only 40,000 dollars :-(

Posted: 2007-07-10 03:55
by ArmedDrunk&Angry
But the overhaul to make it airworthy would be like 100,000.

Posted: 2007-07-10 06:14
by A-10Warthog
M.J.Patterson wrote:Nice setup.. and its affordable.. even better.

I'm jealous of the pilots so I might rig up a helmet with some headphones, attach my mic to a bdu, and full up the water container with an alcoholic beverage.

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i do that. and i got goggles all messed up wit mud to n everythin

Posted: 2007-07-10 07:19
by Outlawz7
I sit down, bring out the keyboard and play.

If I'd play games with a helmet, dressed in camo uniform with all the pouches and gear strapped to me, I might as well join the real army :roll:

Posted: 2007-07-10 12:28
by ArmedDrunk&Angry
I turn the heat up, put on winter clothes and have the GF punch me in the back every time the screens shows a hit.

Posted: 2007-07-10 12:59
by WNxKenwayy
Outlawz wrote:I sit down, bring out the keyboard and play.

If I'd play games with a helmet, dressed in camo uniform with all the pouches and gear strapped to me, I might as well join the real army :roll:
*cough**cough*
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Posted: 2007-07-10 13:06
by robbo
WNxKenwayy wrote:*cough**cough*
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Wow thats really neat Kenwayy so you've been over their, massive respect mate 8-)

Posted: 2007-07-10 13:37
by eddie
Lothrian wrote:I dont know ... some of the older military aircraft are quite reasonable second hand, and probably are a lot more exciting.

Example 1 - MIG 21

Example 2 (for the wealthier) - Aero something or other

or for the more refined second hand purchaser, example 3 - a Boeing

Alternative to all those, for the price of 2 second hand ferrari's, you can also choose option 4 ... an MI-24 Hind
It's not just about how much they cost, it's about getting a license to fly them, which could take a lot of time, especially with all these security issues.

IMO that entire virtual cockpit is just sad. It's for the guy who applied for the air force but got rejected because he forgot to go to school.

The chair's kewl though, not overdone.

Posted: 2007-07-10 13:46
by ArmedDrunk&Angry
It's sad that you make assumptions like that with little or no data to back it up.
I went to his site and he has been building gadgets since he was a little kid then he stopped when he became an adult, career, family etc, then he had the time and money to indulge himself and he did.

You comment could be applied to the developers of a free mod or the players of that mod as well.

Posted: 2007-07-10 13:47
by eddie
I have my opinions, you have yours :)