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Posted: 2008-03-22 17:16
by BloodBane611
If instructions are provided how to hex edit the .exe I don't imagine there will be any problems. The game is old and EA wont care about such a minor issue.
It's worth a shot to see if it works. If it does then the devs can consider whether to distribute this and possibly obtain permission.
I agree, a positive response from EA is quite likely on this. BF2 is clearly on the way out, in another year it'll be obsolete, and I'm sure at this point any improvements that can be done by modders will be overlooked or condoned by EA.
Posted: 2008-03-22 19:27
by blud
PR already breaks the EULA in worse ways (tons of stolen content), and yeah, I know the story about how an EA employee told a dev at a cocktail party that they could use the content and it won't really be a problem. (Morally I agree that that gives you the right, but not legally.) That verbal consent would not stand up AT ALL if EA cared that you were using the content. EA clearly doesn't care.
You should just do it. Furthermore, the devs can protect themselves by not officially distributing the hacked server, instead let some community member do it, or not even distribute the exe but distribute a normal exe plus instructions on how to hex edit it, or even a program/batch file that you run to make the edits.
Or if that link above works, just use that server, then you aren't distributing it, that guy is lol...
EA's eulas and stuff are to protect themselves against loss of revenue through stuff like industrial espionage where a competitor could hack into their game and steal some cool way of doing things, or to protect themselves against malicious people breaking their game or giving them a bad name. They also have rules to protect against piracy. Well, if PR distributes a modified server, that's not going to help a single person play BF2 without buying it.
If PR manages to get bf2 working with 128 players EA isn't going to care at all. And if they even did, then no problem, you just take down the links to the 128 player version and bam you are fine.
Posted: 2008-03-23 00:05
by Toft112
yeah, well, you could place a bat. file or something like that on, lets say rapidshare?
Posted: 2008-03-23 02:25
by Razick
Has anyone ever bothered to contact EA on this matter? I know they arent the leading figure in customer service but they have to respond to something like this.
Posted: 2008-03-23 03:10
by BloodBane611
Has anyone ever bothered to contact EA on this matter? I know they arent the leading figure in customer service but they have to respond to something like this.
Dude, it took them two days to respond to a valid customer question of mine. I don't think their support staff gives a **** about modifications, and their DEV team and management are now working on BF3 and other EA ventures. So unless someone knows of someone who REALLY wants to talk, doesn't seem that worth it. But filing a help desk tickets isn't going to go anywhere.
Posted: 2008-03-23 03:30
by =Romagnolo=
Stop with the discussion, do the things ! :O
Posted: 2008-03-23 05:47
by stalin
just a idea but have you tried running the server without punkbuster enabled? tried to connect to the server without it running and i got a nay from the server because i wasnt running it, just a though.
Posted: 2008-03-23 06:51
by [DVB] Avalon.ca
stalin wrote:just a idea but have you tried running the server without punkbuster enabled? tried to connect to the server without it running and i got a nay from the server because i wasnt running it, just a though.
can you imagin having 110 arseholes on the one server at the same time? every one of them with their uber leet aimbots... what fun.
Posted: 2008-03-23 17:07
by stalin
this is just a test to see whether we can setup a server with 110 people on it, and whether or not punkbuster has anything to do with it. if it does then we can start going down that path if not then nothing changes.
Posted: 2008-03-23 17:12
by [T]waylay00
That hex edit looks like a really good idea! Someone needs to get a download for it!
Posted: 2008-03-23 17:36
by Clypp
creepinshadow24/7 wrote:yeah, i think more players would be nice, and i think EA will appreciate this, (and maybe make an official patch), since more players can play now =more money for EA (if my theory is correct)
No, EA would prefer the BF2 community dies and we move to a new game, such as Crysis, so EA gets more money. EA makes 50 bucks a person whether you play BF2 for a day or 3 years.
Posted: 2008-03-23 17:44
by Psyko
'[R-DEV wrote:PARAMEDIC.CA;634939']indeed.... I have evidence suggesting otherwise

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA....oh...wait...
Posted: 2008-03-23 19:28
by stalin
so... has anybody tried when running the dedicated server just throwing in the +maxplayers <int> flag when running the server... tried it alittle bit ago and worked fine created a local server and it showed up as 0/128.

Posted: 2008-03-23 19:29
by GeZe
stalin wrote:so... has anybody tried when running the dedicated server just throwing in the +maxplayers <int> flag when running the server... tried it alittle bit ago and worked fine created a local server and it showed up as 0/128.
That's what they tried...
Also... this may be of interest to some people:
Up to 255 people per server on Battlefield 2 (how to)
Also... there was a test with a edited server exe before and it didn't work, it turns out it is hard coded in the client as well. So someone may want to look into that as well...
Posted: 2008-03-23 19:42
by stalin
ahh was not aware figured people where trying the hacked exe.
Posted: 2008-03-23 20:59
by =Romagnolo=
I have no idea how to help hacking, but when needed testers to reach 65 players, just call !
Posted: 2008-03-23 22:31
by Masaq
Let's avoid use of the word "Hacking" guys. What's being attempted is:
"Manipulation of an Executable File to Gain Results of an Originaly Unintended Nature"
Posted: 2008-03-23 23:40
by Expendable Grunt
[R-MOD]Masaq wrote:Let's avoid use of the word "Hacking" guys. What's being attempted is:
"Manipulation of an Executable File to Gain Results of an Originaly Unintended Nature"
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING. It's hacking :3.
Seriously though, the guy who gets this working should get 5 monies from each of us.
Posted: 2008-03-24 10:13
by Toft112
monies

he should get like 10$ from each person that plays pr ^^