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Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-04 13:36
by Maxfragg
okay, i did not get what he is talking about, i was just wondering if he means this new moddel or what

Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-04 14:03
by AnRK
Bloody hell, this is getting done quick enough...
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-04 14:05
by MaxBooZe
GR34 wrote:the china tank is suck a shitty tank even in shitty combat the thing sux it cant climb a hill it cant look up, It is like a Fat guy it cant to shot except expel ordnance and eat. It might be good at repelling Mongolians from a shitty wall but thats it
It reloads faster then the others, thats probably its only advantage..
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-04 16:57
by hall0
Realy nice love this tank

Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-04 17:27
by 77SiCaRiO77
spacemanc wrote:Im sure youve researched it but theres a few different versions of the type 99 knocking around - I cant be bothered looking up all the reference shots Ive seen ( Im not modelling it

) and they might not all be on the net, but the optics are different on some versions. The .50 cal ( which I presume is still to be added ) will add quite a few polys, but I reckon you could lose some on the optics and on the hatches and replace with textures, Maybe add some detail to the tracks in the visable areas? theyre quite distictive and wouldnt add many polys.
about the .50 im not decided yet . the ztz99 has a very complex system for the antiaircraft MG , and its fired from the inside . modeling it will add a few more polys , but it will unfair (but realistic)for game , since you wouldnt be able to kill the "comander" .
if I , however , dont model it and just left it like its now , the comander will have to expose almos half his body to shoot it(since the mg was placed high to have a better field of view) , witch will unfair again , but for the PLA

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Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-04 17:34
by agentscar
Don't change it.If you change it,that will un-balance it very bad,lol.
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-04 21:02
by Rhino
what 50cal HMG is realistic for this and is it in BF2?
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-04 21:07
by 77SiCaRiO77
yep, the current one (type 85) is realistic , since is most common HMG used in vehicles and all my ref pics , have it in the comander cupula.
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-05 01:35
by Rhino
gdgd, just use the POE2 tools to import it, then just keep it a separate model but just add the brackets onto it. Then when it comes to importing the 50cal will just be added as a child object

Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-05 15:25
by STORM-Mama
Not only do the Type 98 suck, it's also quite unrealistic to have it as the main tank of the Chinese. IIRC the Type98 wasn't used that widely before it was replaced with the Type99.
In other words: This is a wonderful update for the PLA of PR! Nice work, Sicario!
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-05 23:25
by space
STORM-Mama wrote:Not only do the Type 98 suck, it's also quite unrealistic to have it as the main tank of the Chinese. IIRC the Type98 wasn't used that widely before it was replaced with the Type99.
In other words: This is a wonderful update for the PLA of PR! Nice work, Sicario!
The type 96 is the standard MBT for the PLA ( the latest versions look pretty similar to the type 99 ) The type 99 will only equip certain divisions.
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-05 23:27
by STORM-Mama
And these "certain divisions" are probably the ones that we are playing as in PR, right?

Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-05 23:37
by space
I hope so - Apparently the armour on them can take 7 125mm rounds and sustain very little damage - maybe not be true, but who knows. Alot of people put down the PLA, but Im pretty sure this would be a mean opponent to any western tank.
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-05 23:41
by agentscar
"7 125mm rounds",that sounds waaay to un-true to me...I don't even know if any other tank can take that many 125mm...
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-06 01:38
by Waaah_Wah
agentscar wrote:"7 125mm rounds",that sounds waaay to un-true to me...I don't even know if any other tank can take that many 125mm...
Thats probably frontal armour

Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-06 08:40
by STORM-Mama
spacemanc wrote:I hope so - Apparently the armour on them can take 7 125mm rounds and sustain very little damage - maybe not be true, but who knows. Alot of people put down the PLA, but Im pretty sure this would be a mean opponent to any western tank.
Source on the "7 125mm rounds"-thingy?
And yes, this one would cause a lot of trouble for any western tanker. It's powerful, uses a big and mean gun and moves very fast. Since its main opponent (at least with the current maps) is that British monster I think its only fair to give it all the advantages it has IRL.
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-06 10:45
by Masaq
And yeah, keep the gunner inside if that's how he is IRL.
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-06 14:29
by space
STORM-Mama wrote:Source on the "7 125mm rounds"-thingy?
Dont laugh - its on wikipedia. Theres plenty of sources which say the armour is equivlent to 1.2-1.5 of steel armour. Apparently it has ERA and cobham type armour as well.
If the tests were done with HEAT rounds then from my understanding of how they work, theuy cause very little damage on the external surface - its the inside which blows off and destroys the tank/crew - 7 rounds does sound like BS though.
Other cool things this tank has are laser countermeasures/warning system, which warns that its being targeted and can then blind enemy tanks and helicopters. It also carries 4 A-11 anti tank/helicopter guided missles - it would be great to have some A-11's on it in PR as well.
Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-07 00:00
by Ironcomatose
So i guess judging by your R-CON status, this has been taken under the DEVs wings? And that we will not being hearing anything about it unless they approve, which they never do

Re: [Veicle] ZTZ-99 [WIP]
Posted: 2008-07-07 00:26
by HughJass
his long awaited con tags, hes done stuff for the factions and I think the mod it self. Good job! I hope this gets done soon
