Mikemonster wrote:I did only mention Insurgent/Taliban techies but to clarify think the idea should be extended to all of the gunned jeeps in game, Humvees, CROW, etc.
1) Provide some source for this. When I see Libyan rebels in their trucks there is always a driver and a gunner. Same applies for Somalia/Africa. And again for the IRA, who also use a team to support such a powerful asset.
These trucks have a lot of engineering behind them and this means a cell is suporting their utilisation and upkeep. They aren't necessarily expendable derp trucks like we see in PR.
Let's be honest, read my last post and you'll see that it's unrealistic for them to be used by one man. If you want to talk 'realism' that is .. And I think Ins/Taliban mode is really unrealistic (for the sake of gameplay).
2) Then why are there three guns? I forsee a 'Techie Squad' having a driver, a dismounted spotter (civvy), and a gunner. Just like I would imagine technicals utilise in 'real life'.
3) So is it sometimes necessary to move an APC across the map 'away from harm, to the rest of the squad, etc'? No, because it either engages or disengages with a driver and gunner, and is either destroyed or rtb's by itself. Rather than 'oh, go fetch that APC that someone has left in the middle of a field'.
And no, you cannot force teamplay. But you can make things less fun for people wanting to lonewolf, and all single manners of .50 jeeps/humvees are lonewolfs. These jeeps are, tactically, the equivelant of Blufor AA and APC's (APC's in PR are light tanks, not Inf carriers). And for Blufor they are worth more tickets than it is worth to let some idiot waste.
1) though that may be the case that is simply an organizational choice of said faction. it is only logical to have a full crew for any vehicle be it light or heavy. but it is not a physical requirement to have 2 men in the vehicle to operate it. it is just as mentioned a run of the mill pickup with an MG/SPG mounted on the back. it could very well be operated by a single man. Though i generally do not condone such use of the techies it has come in handy at times. speaking of REALISM it should be enforced by the team and server, not the game.
2) same point as 1
3)What you have suggested sounds to me like even driving the thing requires two men. Which currently isnt the case even for tanks and APCs. you can drive them by yourself you just cant operate the gun. Putting that aside there is a fundamental difference in operating an APC vs a techie under those conditions. It is rare if both driver and gunner stay inside that only one will die (excluding cases which involve a current bug with the vehicle models) A techie on the other hand you will often lose the gunner or driver when you come under fire. In many cases the techie survives with both gunner and driver dead. in an APC or tank the gunner will switch and leave if the driver dies. or if for some crazy reason both die some random blufor can grab a crewman kit and drive it back to base. With your suggestion a random INS guy cannot return a techie thats been left out because both gunner and driver got shot. it is simply, if you dont mind me saying, mind blowingly stupid to further restrict the INS's ability to operate than the game already has.
support for the SPG techie but for everything else i strongly disagree. This suggestion would also not allow a squad that dismounted to go "OH HOLY **** WE"RE UNDER ATTACK, QUICK someone get back on that gun!"
If this is to be implemented it must be to all factions not just the INS techies, it must apply to humvees, Gwagons, etc. That as well i do not wish to see as it would destroy game play on very fundamental level. 64 or 128 we simply do not have enough men in the squad.
you have admins for a reason. the !r command exists for a reason, use them. If that doesn't work go play on a better server.