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Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-01-31 20:48
by 9cookie_monster
Great seeing some images of the map. I would imagine every one has a slightly different step by step approach. Especially depending if you have statics being made for you or details of the map. But don't forget under and over growth for your list.

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-01-31 21:16
by Ason
Thanks GP, I will! Yeah Over/undergrowth aswell, forgot to add it to the list thanks :P

with river done:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6431 ... errain.png

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-01-31 21:34
by rodrigoma
nice progress,
my personal kind of retarded progress in these kind of maps is start with the terrain layout and the roads, especially if I used real data heightmap, and then I use t-paint or anything else to paint the terrain textures, and the OG, UG covering the whole map and from there I start on one spot and start developing so I can get and idea on how it will look and what method I will use, and progressively will spread through the whole map.
I like to use the roads as planning, I see you used texture painted I recommend you use road splines already, at-least outside the city

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-01-31 21:37
by Rabbit
[R-CON]rodrigoma wrote:nice progress,
my personal kind of retarded progress in these kind of maps is start with the terrain layout and the roads, especially if I used real data heightmap, and then I use t-paint or anything else to paint the terrain textures, and the OG, UG covering the whole map and from there I start on one spot and start developing so I can get and idea on how it will look and what method I will use, and progressively will spread through the whole map.
I like to use the roads as planning, I see you used texture painted I recommend you use road splines already, at-least outside the city
Same, Lay down the terrain data, but in roads, place objects in the area they will be in, paint everything else, place objects.

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-01-31 21:47
by Ason
[R-CON]rodrigoma wrote:nice progress,
my personal kind of retarded progress in these kind of maps is start with the terrain layout and the roads, especially if I used real data heightmap, and then I use t-paint or anything else to paint the terrain textures, and the OG, UG covering the whole map and from there I start on one spot and start developing so I can get and idea on how it will look and what method I will use, and progressively will spread through the whole map.
I like to use the roads as planning, I see you used texture painted I recommend you use road splines already, at-least outside the city
Thanks m8, I see how T-paint makes you save time, so it lays down the maincolors right?
I know i didn't have the balls to place splines at such an early stage :P I always felt something would go wrong so i thought i first painted them so i got something to follow after my houses are done, then i just repaint around the roads :P When i work with roads it feels like i have to delete and remake so many times i'm sure some of it sticks in the map and will f*ck it up later like CTD or something. But soon i will have to face my fear xd

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-01-31 23:11
by CTRifle
nice progress ;)

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 15:17
by Ason
Here is a picture of the city centre, i will fill the blocks remaining with smaller "dest_houses" like in the bottom of the pic.

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/9967/citycentre.png

I hope it won't be too much? I will try switch some of them and put in non-enterables if i find any with the right looks.

Also, how can i add pictures so you can see them directly in the post? the ones which are resized, my posts looks so boring with imgshack links :P

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 15:23
by Rabbit
Upload here http://imgur.com/ and copy the link under
BBCode (message boards & forums)

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 15:27
by Ason
gx wrote:Upload here imgur: the simple image sharer and copy the link under
Thanks!

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 16:13
by rodrigoma
also go to (Render) and Draw fog and click so the fog disapears

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 16:19
by Pvt.LHeureux
I think you have too much dest things, will make your map crash in-game. I don't know if you'll hit the limit but just don't go crazy with destroyables statics.

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 16:20
by sylent/shooter
The way you have it right now is probably pushing how many enterables you can have. Definitely going to lower the fps inside the city for people with low end computers. So unfortunately you will need to change some of yhem. Also remember you have a limit of 300 destroyable objects on a map. If you go over it will ctd. So I wouldn't put them all into those dest buildings. There are some of them that are non dest but still look the same. Use those instead. Remember that most of those buildings are enterable as well....

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 16:24
by lucky.BOY
Please dont use png format for screenshots, resave them as .jpg with 100 quality, they will look as good and will be much smaller.

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 16:31
by Ason
[R-CON]rodrigoma wrote:also go to (Render) and Draw fog and click so the fog disapears
ahh nice :D thanks!

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 16:35
by Ason
[R-CON]sylent/shooter wrote:The way you have it right now is probably pushing how many enterables you can have. Definitely going to lower the fps inside the city for people with low end computers. So unfortunately you will need to change some of yhem. Also remember you have a limit of 300 destroyable objects on a map. If you go over it will ctd. So I wouldn't put them all into those dest buildings. There are some of them that are non dest but still look the same. Use those instead. Remember that most of those buildings are enterable as well....
hmm...well that's disappointing, are you sure the small dest_houses are destroyable? They are in Falklands aswell right? I've never seen any house destroyed in falklands.
Do you know where i can find the almost same type but non-destroyable?

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 18:26
by sylent/shooter
You might have chosen the ones that aren't destroyable... which is what the falklands uses IIRC as well as silent eagle. However they do have destroyable versions of them - which AFAIK aren't used in a map currently. However, they are all enterables which severly impacts performance.

Also yes... the small dest_houses are destroyable... hence the "dest" in their name xD

Someone who developed them could probably shed some more light on them. However an easy way to check if they are destroyable or not is using this tutorial.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f189-modding-tutorials/101431-tutorial-viewing-wrecked-static-editor.html

that way you can see if it has a wrecked mesh. If it does, it's destroyable.

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 19:06
by Ason
'[R-CON wrote:sylent/shooter;1860294']However an easy way to check if they are destroyable or not is using this tutorial.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f189-modding-tutorials/101431-tutorial-viewing-wrecked-static-editor.html

that way you can see if it has a wrecked mesh. If it does, it's destroyable.
thanks man, good to know, do you you know if it stays destroyed ingame if i change it to 1?
You might have chosen the ones that aren't destroyable... which is what the falklands uses IIRC as well as silent eagle
But do you know where the ones which aren't destroyable can be found I am now talking about the small houses, not the big apartments, are you also talking about the non-destroyable small houses? ? :P

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-01 21:04
by sylent/shooter
Ya I was talking about those houses... I honestly have never used them... I just know they exist... so you'll have to do some searching :p

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-02 07:24
by Moszeusz6Pl
I have checked pr\house_dest folder, I didn't hound hitpoints line in any of those, which all destrucatble statics had, so I think that they are all indestructible. And this is the same ones, that Falklands use.

Re: [Map] Grozny (2km) [WIP]

Posted: 2013-02-02 14:02
by lucky.BOY
kind of happy with the edit here:

Image

The original static is a mess though, it uses colour texture from _asia folder fr example, the walls and floor are not welded at all, and it already uses a dirt texture where different colour texture would do the job as well, giving me no space to put on some burn marks etc.

EDIT: Lobodan, you can add some piles of debris as separate objects, right? That way you should have more flexibility than if i export some as a part of the static, and saves me time making them in the first place :D