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Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-09-16 11:13
by Glimmerman
MCI can you show us allready some things you have done for the map?

@manligheten
I think we can use some of those staics thanx, if MCI can make a inventory of things he need.

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-09-22 17:14
by MCI
That mapupdate will have to wait (read PM svp)

But I'll make a list of objects and photos of these objects for some Dutch/Western Europe statics

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-09-30 22:39
by woodzkiller
if you guys are still looking for a name what about:
-the battle for Rotterdam
-the siege of Holland
-dunes of Holland?

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-09-30 23:04
by NyteMyre
Why Rotterdam? That area is 50km away from it.

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 09:14
by Pronck
NyteMyre wrote:Why Rotterdam? That area is 50km away from it.
Rotterdam is on a very tactical positon, if you own it you cut of the hague and other city's in holland from the south.

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 10:14
by KingLorre
ghost-recon wrote:Rotterdam is on a very tactical positon, if you own it you cut of the hague and other city's in holland from the south.
But it is not a battle for rotterdam now is it.

EDIT:

lets refeur to exhibit A shall we:
Image


The red area is the proximate position of the Loonse en Drunense duinen.

the greyish area is the position of rotterdam. the stripes are the blocked positions that would cut off "Fortress Holland" wich would be a baricaded afsluitdijk, a flooded ijsel and a blocked/blownup moerdijk bridge/tunnel. what remains open would be that open spot, well away from rotterdam. so no its not a battle of rotterdam. does that solve the question? :P

EDIT v2, did not include flevoland in the defence as i have no idea if they would leave it to fall or try to blow up those tiny bridges and locks we have over there.

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 11:09
by Glimmerman
Allmost right KingLorre :)

Our area op operation is right next to the Efteling.

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 11:38
by NyteMyre
woot...we can visit Fairy Tale Forest as well ? That would be awesome :p

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 12:17
by KingLorre
[R-COM]Glimmerman wrote:Allmost right KingLorre :)

Our area op operation is right next to the Efteling.
either way it was to show the difference. I do love it when im "almost" right tho :P

but why dig in all the way down there tho? is that to alow allied reinforcents to catch up, and making sure the dutch/ allies dont get caught off in the event of a breakout form germany?

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 15:20
by woodzkiller
ok the siege of Rotterdam isn't good, but still after those dunes there isn't much left for defending the way to Rotterdam is there

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 15:53
by KingLorre
woodzkiller wrote:ok the siege of Rotterdam isn't good, but still after those dunes there isn't much left for defending the way to Rotterdam is there
not really, theres still alot of water between us and them before they reach rotterdam.

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 17:25
by TGT
Would this be cool?

Rotterdam was the first biggest harbour.
Now China has it....
Wouldn't it be cool that there would be a battle in China harbour so Rotterdam gets the honour again?
Just wondering :D

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-01 18:27
by ice_killer
No a CHinees invasion on the Rotterdam harbor (Sh!t i sayd to mutch :mrgreen: )

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-02 15:00
by Pronck
KingLorre wrote:But it is not a battle for Rotterdam now is it.

EDIT:

lets refeur to exhibit A shall we:
Image


The red area is the proximate position of the Loonse en Drunense duinen.

the greyish area is the position of Rotterdam. the stripes are the blocked positions that would cut off "Fortress Holland" which would be a barricaded afsluitdijk, a flooded ijsel and a blocked/blown up moerdijk bridge/tunnel. what remains open would be that open spot, well away from Rotterdam. so no its not a battle of Rotterdam. does that solve the question? :P
Why does Rotterdam need to be captured in a tactical way? Answer: Because it's one of the main harbors of the country, when you need weapons, you need a lot of money. The Netherlands does not have a own weapon factory, the most of it comes from the U.S and Germany. When Rotterdam is captured your infrastructure is blown away for de most part. Holland won't be able then to supply (properly) their forces in the south of Holland.

Also the southern Netherlands are cut of, because when you have barricaded the moerdijk bridge, and other bridges, the supply trucks are like sitting ducks for ground-attack airplanes. The soldiers at the peel-raamstelling (and other troops in the southern Netherlands) will be cut off from the remaining troops in "fort Holland" when Rotterdam is captured.

And what with the oil supplies near Rotterdam at Pernis? The Dutch won't be able to move their troops fast with vehicles but they have top deploy and move by feet. Rotterdam is just a very tricky city/position.



Here a map:

Image

The black stripes are the main defences, the red/orange stripes are the occupied areas. The black "graffiti" stripe is the Dutch/Belgium border. The red/orange dot is Rotterdam.

I mean that rotterdam has to be in the map, but a specific map would be great! :mrgreen:

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-02 16:47
by lol2be4
i dont think that is a nice story because the netherlands have so mutch amounths of fuel

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-02 17:32
by ice_killer
Much fuel? You're sure ?

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-02 18:14
by Durkie
Image

do you see al those fuel storages you can supply whole NATO out of it :D

and its the only port that is deep enough for mammut tankers so the port is vital for NATO oil supply

but lets get back on topic

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-02 18:38
by ice_killer
1 well placed airstrike is needed to to stop the NATO (LOL)

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-02 18:38
by Pronck
Durkie wrote:Image

do you see al those fuel storages you can supply whole NATO out of it :D

and its the only port that is deep enough for mammut tankers so the port is vital for NATO oil supply

but lets get back on topic
That isn't all of the fuel tanks by the way!

Re: [MAP] Battle of the Netherlands

Posted: 2009-10-02 18:51
by Durkie
1 well placed airstrike is needed to to stop the NATO (LOL)
don't say that :D