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Bluedrake42
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Fir3w411 wrote:Basically what you're saying is that idiots that enjoy mic spamming (whom make up quite a large portion of your player base) should be allowed to do exactly that and disrupt the briefing time. And if they "really care that much" about it then remove their headphones and NOT brief their squad at all.
Yeah. That's uh... that's pretty much what I'm saying. Also I never have any trouble briefing my Squad at the beginning of rounds. Like I said, I play on my server. I like my server. As does the vast majority of Project Reality's active player base.

I provided examples. If its worse than that, post it here and I'll take care of it. If its not worse than that... sorry buddy. I'm not here to make the whole world happy, I'm here to make my community happy. My community doesn't like the "core" PR community any more than you like us. So if you're gonna try to like... guilt me about this or something, good luck.
PricelineNegotiator wrote:Yeah, this is why most veterans avoid FCV. It caters to a totally different audience than what PR is used to.
BAM. Couldn't have said it better myself. GG Priceline.

[quote=""'[R-CON"]potatochan;2101029']When FCV was offline due to technical issues or something we did notice an increase of player population at late Night on our Server and the playerbase was so bad that I decided to instead shutdown the Server at Night so they don't play here. Just saying.

Did anyone watch Lirik's stream when he mostly played on FCV? Probably gave 20.000 of his watchers the wrong idea of PR aswell welp....[/quote]

If the "wrong" idea of Project Reality makes us the most popular server in the game, and we have celebrities playing to an audience of 20,000 people, then that doesn't sound like the wrong idea to me. Look at the silver lining, at least we're soaking up all the "bad" players so you can play on other servers yeah? Yeah. Just think that.

[quote="Chefmoto1""]Certain kinds of players are attracted to certain kinds of servers. It's good for the community that we have servers that cater to different player bases. And truthfully, that's just what FCV's player base is, different. I noticed it myself when I was a part of the PRTA NA admin team. If FCV wasn't popped or was down for one reason or another, we'd notice an influx of unfamiliar players who clearly played with a different style and carried a different attitude about them. I'm really not trying to say there is anything wrong with that, it just makes it abundantly clear that a diverse server choice is a good thing for the future of PR. All that being said, I don't want that to be perceived as an insult against FCV, it's obviously a tremendously successful server and I have had fun playing there.[/quote]

Look dude, I feel like I'm being reasonable here. Post examples of the spam, if its worse than usual I'll take care of it. Make a report on the forums with just an Mp3 or something of the briefing, if there are people legitimately trolling and trying to disrupt gameplay via spam... we'll look into it.

However if its just the normal briefing banter, then I don't want to deal with it. I'm pretty damn amenable to most things, this is like... literally the first server complaint I've had a stance on. 99% of the time when you all post complaints, we compromise and take care of it. This is one of the only things I think is preferential enough to be a legitimate difference in opinion... not a "wrong/right" thing.

The moment I start "cracking down" on this, is the moment our playerbase finds somewhere else to play. Again... if its excessive, post an mp3 or video and we'll look into it. If not... don't know what to tell you. Play on =HOG=? That's not even an insult, that's why =HOG= exists. Honestly at this point, if you just play on another server that is only going to help relieve stress on our staff. 99% of our administration problems atm stem from the fact that we're populated at like... every second of every day.
[R-CON]Spook wrote:It is though. It is constant, on every round. I played more often on FCV recently. Trying to organize transport during briefing time is impossible. They simply don't hear you on squad chat. Its always: hoping to spawn close to one of the choppers and hoping the pilot is capable of understanding your trans request and at the same time taking off without delay. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't and we arrive when enemies are already 2 flags further than we are. Thats the times I really get mad.

Gameplay-wise the server is ok. During game squads mostly respond to you and often there is a CO around doing UAV stuff. Was worse in the past. I gladly join FCV nowadays for some relaxed rounds.
Post examples please. Best I can do. Post examples and the staff will weigh in on it.
Rabbit
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"Free Candy Van, at least we aren't HOG".
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AfterDune
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Post by AfterDune »

So much discussion. And I thought having a kid was tiresome ;) .

You like the server or you don't. Lengthy discussions aren't going to change things, because (most of the times) it's opinions vs opinions.

At least that's how I see it. But, carry on ;) .
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[MI5] Richard.Price
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Post by [MI5] Richard.Price »

I joined FCV yesterday (for the very first time) and played half a round of khami. Their MIG pilot crashed his jet @ bunker 39. I drove a jeep and ran into 2 Bradleys and 1 Abrams in the open and all of them missed their rounds. I killed 4 guys @ oilfield with my rifleman kit so they decided to shoot me with 3 AT4s and all of them missed. They then decided to get on the tow and shoot me and I killed that guy on the tow after he shot a missile at the wrong window..

The quality of battle is different, no doubt. I can just kick back and dodge the entire enemy APC sq with my jeep.

But winning with a tactical team over another team of tactical players feels just soo RIGHT. Not so right driving in the desert leaving 3 APCs behind.
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Bluedrake42 wrote:I provided examples. If its worse than that, post it here and I'll take care of it. If its not worse than that... sorry buddy. I'm not here to make the whole world happy, I'm here to make my community happy. My community doesn't like the "core" PR community any more than you like us. So if you're gonna try to like... guilt me about this or something, good luck.
The examples were set to the end of the round. Not the briefing time which was the point of the complaint. Rest assured, we don't talk out of our *** here, it was unbearable every time I played on FCV, maybe you manage because you are shouting over mumble, maybe you're just not noticing when stuff goes wrong, maybe you're used to that kind of shit idk. But it's horrendous when you're trying to be productive.
Bluedrake42 wrote:If the "wrong" idea of Project Reality makes us the most popular server in the game, and we have celebrities playing to an audience of 20,000 people, then that doesn't sound like the wrong idea to me. Look at the silver lining, at least we're soaking up all the "bad" players so you can play on other servers yeah? Yeah. Just think that.
By that logic we're all wrong for playing this game which has an audience of maybe a couple hundreds versus idk, World of Warcraft, CoD, Insurgency or whatever. Popularity doesn't equate to quality necessarily, how players tend to act and play on your server confirms just that.

Thank you for being the sponge though I wouldn't mind some quality improvements, and I'm sure others won't either.
VTRaptor: but i only stopped for less than 10 secs and that fucking awesome dude put 2 of them

]CIA[ SwampFox: well my definition of glitching is using an enemy kit to kill the enemy

Just_Dave: i have a list about PR players, and they r categorized by their skill

Para: You sir are an arse and not what the game or our community needs.

AlonTavor: Is that a German trying to make me concentrate?

Heavy Death: join PRTA instead - Teamwork is a must there.
Jevski
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Also, calling out we are nr.1 isnt really a good unit of measure, since the closest competitor hasn't been on gametracker for more than 1 month.

Pr was made to be played a certain way, just as Quake was made to be a fast paced 1st person shooter. Saying there is no wrong way to play PR is like trying to play quake as a turn based strategy game. I personally consider FCV a penal colony, the majority of those who cant act in a mature way end up having no other server to play on.
Bluedrake42
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Oh I'm well aware lol

That doesn't mean I'm gonna stop saying it though lol

I bet you all joined for that exact reason haha

but its too late jev. TOO LATEEEEEE.
Bluedrake42
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Jevski wrote:I personally consider FCV a penal colony, the majority of those who cant act in a mature way end up having no other server to play on.
Also yes. We're Australia. We are literally Australia.

And everyone ended up liking Australia. eventually anyways.
Jevski
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Bluedrake42 wrote:Oh I'm well aware lol

That doesn't mean I'm gonna stop saying it though lol

I bet you all joined for that exact reason haha

but its too late jev. TOO LATEEEEEE.

I know your not. Im just pointing out you view and measurement is distorted. To be proud of being in the lead of marathon where your opponent had a 2 year headstart......


Spamming during briefing is not spamming.
Building fobs on people to kill them is not glitching.
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curahee150
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Post by curahee150 »

So, just my thoughts/observations here. I have noticed that for whatever reason, very few squad are actually together, most people are just spread out doing their own thing. This was not very bad until a few days, and while most players on other servers have seemingly gotten better at teamwork and such, yours seems to have taken a sharp decline. For the past few rounds I have played, it has been almost unbearable how incompetent the teams are at teamwork, due to either no micers or people that play PR as Cod on your server, or other detrimental factors.

As for the mumble spam things also appear to have taken a sharp decline, while admins were cracking down on people spamming at briefings and the mumble spam had decreased after the round, this seemed to become suddenly worse compared to a few weeks ago. Your server seemed to be getting better, what happened?
"If it sounds stupid but it works, it ain't stupid"-Murphy's law
Bluedrake42
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Re: Free Candy Van

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Jevski wrote:I know your not. Im just pointing out you view and measurement is distorted. To be proud of being in the lead of marathon where your opponent had a 2 year headstart......


Spamming during briefing is not spamming.
Building fobs on people to kill them is not glitching.
I've been here since the beginning Jevski, if having 25x your community members, and having our own server that's been the most populated server for the past year is a "head start" then sure. Acting like I have to be humble just so you can stroke yourself at night. Wtf concern is it to you what we say or do.

And I guess kicking players for clan tags, and killing members for kits isn't admin abuse ;D
Each of our communities have our own things Jevski, so how about you stay in yours and bugger off?
curahee150 wrote:So, just my thoughts/observations here. I have noticed that for whatever reason, very few squad are actually together, most people are just spread out doing their own thing. This was not very bad until a few days, and while most players on other servers have seemingly gotten better at teamwork and such, yours seems to have taken a sharp decline. For the past few rounds I have played, it has been almost unbearable how incompetent the teams are at teamwork, due to either no micers or people that play PR as Cod on your server, or other detrimental factors.

As for the mumble spam things also appear to have taken a sharp decline, while admins were cracking down on people spamming at briefings and the mumble spam had decreased after the round, this seemed to become suddenly worse compared to a few weeks ago. Your server seemed to be getting better, what happened?
That might be the case, not sure. Again please report anything on our website, I haven't played this past week so that could be true. Let us know, and we'll look into it. We attract some shitty people sometimes, and things like this might be contributed to an influx in trolls... so please feel free to report those kinds of things. We appreciate any and all feedback, it helps us keep things in check.
curahee150
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Alright, thanks
"If it sounds stupid but it works, it ain't stupid"-Murphy's law
Bluedrake42
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curahee150 wrote:Alright, thanks
No problem, thank you.

However to everyone else being rude and demanding: if I seem like I'm being dismissive or have a lack of empathy for your opinions lately, its because I'm more invested in the child I'm having a month from now than debating the morals behind someone interrupting you in mumble on an online video game.

The developers who develop this game do so in their spare time, just as we run our servers in our spare time. Our admins are volunteers who (at least for the moment) do this for free, and our server is paid for by my community... not your community. So the people who you apparently hate so much, this server is for them, paid for by them. Not you. Their needs and desires take precedence over yours and how you "think" Project Reality should be played. We don't care how you think Project Reality should be played. Like literally that has nothing to do with how we run our operation.

The developers didn't create Project Reality to appeal to everyone, they built it for themselves. Just like how we didn't host our server to appeal to everyone, we host it for ourselves. If you have a report to make, or an opinion to voice, feel free to leave us feedback in a polite and constructive manner. If we don't agree with your suggestion, then acting entitled and crude won't get you any further.

Honestly, I really don't care who the #1 server is. I host this server so I can make videos in peace, and so people who watch my videos can come play somewhere they feel accepted. I really don't care about the "elite" PR community, about just as much as they don't care about mine. Being crass over it won't make me respect your point of you any more.

Just be happy you have a paid for server to play on, with admins who do their best to make it a fun place to play. Or worst case be happy you've got a server to deal with all the casuals, so you can be with your own veterans by yourself.

#Priorities

And honestly this is all kindof ridiculous because even with all this said 99.99% of all things you would expect from a Project Reality server we enforce. Have you even played on a Project Reality coop server? We could've have been like that, only for deployment. Be happy of all the immature Youtuber communities to flood into this game, you got the one who has at least a shred of respect for the core spirit of the game.

Like damn we may even agree on this, how many times do I have to ask people to upload examples of what you consider mumble spam. For all I know we might actually agree.
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Chefmoto1
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Don't have a feedback thread if you don't want feedback. Most of the people here weren't being rude and presented their opinions in a reasonable manner. You disagree with their opinions, and that is fine. But the way you're carrying yourself in this thread just doesn't come off very professional.
Bluedrake42
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Chefmoto1 wrote:Don't have a feedback thread if you don't want feedback. Most of the people here weren't being rude and presented their opinions in a reasonable manner. You disagree with their opinions, and that is fine. But the way you're carrying yourself in this thread just doesn't come off very professional.
Not here to meet your subjective definitions of professional Chef. I'm here to run a community. If they weren't rude and they presented their opinions in a reasonable manner, then obviously I wasn't referring to them.

However, let's take a look at some examples on my subjective definitions of "rude and entitled" to clarify.
Every time I join FCV, I sadly regret doing it... Just plainly bad experience every time I join.
So here as a control subject we have some genuine negative feedback. Honest and simple.
Basically what you're saying is that idiots that enjoy mic spamming (whom make up quite a large portion of your player base) should be allowed to do exactly that and disrupt the briefing time. And if they "really care that much" about it then remove their headphones and NOT brief their squad at all.
And here we have our backhanded useless complaining.
I personally consider FCV a penal colony, the majority of those who cant act in a mature way end up having no other server to play on.
And finally this beauty. A clan leader who has never played on our server voicing baseless negative opinions in order to undermine competition to promote his own server ;D

What a time to be alive.

So meanwhile, you'll have my standard courtesy.

Until then, feel free to leave your opinions and feedback on your server experience. Although we normally keep in mind that the players actually having a good time are on the server (and there seem to be a lot of those right now) not complaining on the forums ;D So if we don't make the changes you want to see, try to take it in stride.
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Bluedrake42
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just played a match on fcv

battled on Mestia (will upload the round later) over bunkers coordinating between four full infantry squads. Ended the match with an epic charge on east tower while our AR blasted The Imperial March over local. Won the game by 11 tickets. Was fucking great.

Sounds exactly like the community I wanted to create, and exactly the experience I wanted to have for our server.

If this isn't your jam, find yourself somewhere else to play. =HOG= is right around the corner.



I doubt most of our players even use these forums.
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curahee150 wrote:Alright, thanks
Curahee you always seem to cause a storm mate. No surprse here.
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Chefmoto1
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Bluedrake, I'm genuinely happy for you about the kid, congrats man.

We've interacted a lot, you know I don't have a problem with you. I was just agreeing with potatochan about an issue I'd been coming across lately when I've been playing on your server. Truthfully, I never used to play on the new FCV until the "death" of PRTA NA. Since then I've played quite a few rounds there and overall have had a good time. It's your server, your community. Nobody here should assume to tell you how to run it.

All I'm simply saying is it would be nice to enjoy a few rounds of PR in a row without having to mute mumble because of some kids inventing new noises with the intention of rupturing my eardrums. For some reason, I've come across this on FCV more than other servers, and it's probably more due to your standpoint on it than anything else it appears.

“Do not think of knocking out another person's brains because he differs in opinion from you. It would be as rational to knock yourself on the head because you differ from yourself ten years ago.”
Jevski
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Post by Jevski »

Oh Blue,

Wrong in about everything. Im not a clan leader. Im not even member of a clan.

And I guess kicking players for clan tags, and killing members for kits isn't admin abuse

Again has been mentioned here, we have different player base, you allow alot of what I would call immature behavior, HOG does not. But I have always worked withing the rules that has been set by the HOG server and never abused my power over such pettiness as tags or for a kit, my favorite is medic and rifleman, not something to kill for.

As to the penal colony. It was a description of where the players who are banned on HOG, PRTA and other servers and end up at, which as you say yourself has a less serious playerbase, and not a statement about the servers teamwork.
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Post by Nate. »

Jevski please stop hijacking everyone's feedback and draw us into your FCV-HOG drama.
You make our legit concerns look like a HOG vendetta again. Just fyi, mumble spam is as much of an issue on HOG as it is on FCV most of the time.


Bluedrake, thanks for replying, we will try to provide anecdotal video evidence to show the problem.
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