Mumble Cheaters?

mattnett1 · Post by **mattnett1** » 2011-08-17 21:11

Ok... I find this big in PR now... Its getting VERY annoying.

People from the other team are 'eavesdropping' into our team's mumble chat.

Is there one way to fix this? Because I find it abusive and very annoying... Especially when they get into your squad leader chat then its dumb.

Does anyone else run into this issue?

Everytime on =HOG=, TAR, and like 10% of the time Tact Gamer, I run into these.

Post by **Rudd** » 2011-08-17 21:14

Only saw this once on tacticalgamer, guy got banned within 5 minutes

this kind of cheating has always existed, on teamspeak and even ingame with intentional teamswitching to see enemy positions.

The only answer - vigilant admins

report it to admins and they will deal with it

mattnett1 · Post by **mattnett1** » 2011-08-17 21:15

Yah... but of course =HOG= and TAR admins are just plain stupid. They don't ban for that. They ban because you killed them.

Tactical Gamer though, their admins will help and do what ever to make it good.

Post by **Spec** » 2011-08-17 21:29

Well, only good administration can help there, I guess. People actually caught not only happening to be in the wrong channel on accident, but effectively sharing information, they should simply be perma-banned from all Mumble servers.

Edit: Sorry

Had this window open for too long, so I got snail-ninja'd.

Gracler · Post by **Gracler** » 2011-08-17 21:32

I don't really have any idea of how many people use mumble to cheat but I have experienced quite a few times that people that are being auto team-swapped on insurgency maps cant keep there mouth shut and explain where the next cache is. So i recon the same type of people would stay in the wrong mumble channel just to do some eavesdropping.

My paranoia makes me double check who is in the SL channel before I say something that can be used against our team.

I always explain tactics with in-game Voip and I try to avoid using keypad references when talking locally. (it only takes 1 unlinked enemy to screw up your plan)

Some players just don't know how to play fair and will use all means to win the game I guess.

The day when mumble channels are controlled by scrips that moves players in the right channels and kicks people who don't belong there ill be talking freely.
As far as i know this is almost impossible to script as it is now though.

NyteMyre · Post by **NyteMyre** » 2011-08-17 22:05

1 channel system FTW

Gracler · Post by **Gracler** » 2011-08-17 22:14

1 channel systems punishes the players who use mumble for talking and rewards the ones that only uses VOIP.

1 channel would be good if VOIP was disabled but then again....players would just use other services like Ventrilo or teamspeak to be "silent"

1 channel servers are fun for 5 min....then it becomes annoying tbh

Psyko · Post by **Psyko** » 2011-08-17 22:21

maybe if we made it that you got too close, like 2 meters of an enemy unit you would get unlinked or somehting

mattnett1 · Post by **mattnett1** » 2011-08-17 22:32

I agree Pskykogundam!!!
That would be good! How about a asset for radio jammer? Like idk... or maybe a tool?

TheComedian · Post by **TheComedian** » 2011-08-17 22:34

We have yet to see the changes in the next version on mumble so be patient.

Trooper909 · Post by **Trooper909** » 2011-08-17 22:43

Don't matter what system is in place it will be abused tbh. Think of it as like real life intelligence/counter intelligence gathering there will always be spy's

mattnett1 · Post by **mattnett1** » 2011-08-18 14:50

Yah... but I just came out of a server on =HOG=. Wow talk about cheaters, The admins, the mumble people, ect.

The admins banned me for 3 days... why? I killed them. (They were enemies)
And then mumble cheaters were like: Guys, lets just attack at like A4 KP6

Mikemonster · Post by **Mikemonster** » 2011-08-18 15:13

Oh dear.. PR is so real that we must all maintain comms discipline.. Next up will be a 'bullseye' on the map that changes every 20mins.

Post by **Rudd** » 2011-08-18 15:16

just agree on codewords over VOIP

"this is badger 3, spotted two roosters coming over the banana, requesting an orange, over"

the cheaters won't have a clue whats going on....but neither will you tbh

killonsight95 · Post by **killonsight95** » 2011-08-18 15:18

protip[ matt, never play on HOG

Oskar · Post by **Oskar** » 2011-08-18 15:53

I have yet to notice any apparent Mumble eavesdropping in my almost 3 years of playing PR.
Lots of team-switch ghosting, though.

billysmall44 · Post by **billysmall44** » 2011-08-18 16:14

i think almost every other game i switch teams on accident at least once

mattnett1 · Post by **mattnett1** » 2011-08-18 17:30

I agree. What are team switch ghosting?????

And second, I don't play on =HOG= they hog the lag.

Trooper909 · Post by **Trooper909** » 2011-08-18 18:07

[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:just agree on codewords over VOIP

"this is badger 3, spotted two roosters coming over the banana, requesting an orange, over"

the cheaters won't have a clue whats going on....but neither will you tbh

Post made me lol

Oskar · Post by **Oskar** » 2011-08-18 22:21

mattnett1 wrote:What are team switch ghosting?????

It is when you switch team and tell your new team about 'enemy' movement, positions, where caches are, etc.

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