Anyone getting tired of team stacks?

[BlazeDBe3]

Seriosuly, What on earth has happen lately. It seems lately every sever just team stacks their members on one side and basiclly auto win.

Now hold up a sec, Im crying about a team wanting to play as a team? Yes and No. I been in the CAL, CEVO scene, i know its fun to play with your team.

But hear this yall; It's not fun losing every single map due to your clan feels they need to team stack their 15 members all one team and unbalance it. Worst of all, they team swap you and make you play Insurgent over and over, so their members can be together.

Now I don't gotta say the name of the servers that do this, if you play PR, you know what i'm talking about.

Yet sadly, these are the only servers that people play in / dont lag incredible bad because they are in some 3rd world country and I never see people in them, waste of money IMHO, but thats another story.

Lets just say, I saw about oh a good 15-25% of people leave last night due to team stacking, and they asked them to maybe spread the teams, they came back as youmad bro?

The maturity level of this community, is now about that of the CoD level.

Yea, I could spend the money and host my own server and not deal with this, But with only about 8 servers that people frequent, thats just a waste of cash to follow that route. It is what it is, but Im just ranting to much. But after coming back to PR 2 weeks ago, after playing forever ages since early PR, I must say, im speechless at what this community has turned into. The maturity I see on these forums, is nothing I see in-game. Which makes me a very sad kitten. Its almost false advertising

EDIT: By the way, I must ask, why is the suggestions forum locked? Why do the devs not want to hear feedback and new ideas? This is a new one to me, most be some special kind of devs that aren't open to ideas nor suggestions.

[ShockUnitBlack]

I've brought this up with my server before; it's a problem. It is not, however, a game problem, and thus you should be discussing this on your server's website, not the game's site.

[BlazeDBe3]

I've brought this up with my server before; it's a problem. It is not, however, a game problem, and thus you should be discussing this on your server's website, not the game's site.

However, this is the mods community forum. We are discussing about the mod, I dont wanna go register on their website just to probably get a "youmad bro" reply. When I much rather discuss this say here, with other fellow players that well you know.... Play PR, as this is the PR forum...

[Trooper909]

We know what server lol..either join there clan or don't play there tbh there are other servers to play on.

[Bradley364]

We know what server lol..either join there clan or don't play there tbh there are other servers to play on.

Yeah, but even if you're on the stacked teams, having an enemy that constantly folds and puts up no fight can be boring as well.

[Acecombatzer0]

PRTA and TG are not clans, they are communities, so I never see teamstacking on those servers. But yeah, teamswitching is an issue, and I hate being forced into another team mid-round, or as playing with a good team the first round, and then the next with the people I just fought with.

If your problems go to far, why not donate or spend time on the server, so you can be on the winning team? I wish I can put 7 hours a week at PR but I cannot personally make that happen.

[Zimmer]

The problem is that you want to play with friends, the team coordination always gets better then, you dont have randoms showing you the finger when asking for something. And I also think for many people they are un aware of the team stacking, I would rather loose a even match then win an easy match though, we just have to make server owners and clans aware of team stacking trying to prevent and build in some sort of gentleman's agreement in people minds.

[crot]

This is partly the reason why I stopped playing PR and only play like 1-2 times a week with friends now. The team stacking used to be bearable, atleast when there were still mature people on your team that even though you lost, you had fun winning with your SQUAD.
Right now, when summer started we had a huge influx of new people and lots of asshats that dont bother to ask what to do, dont listen and dont read the manual so you pretty much on your own with maybe handful of people that know what to do. Lets wait till summer is over, the brats go back to school and I guess PR will return to its standard state. Only server to play on now is TG and on weekends, when most "vets" play. TG also tends to get stacked alot these days too, during weekdays.

[Redamare]

it makes it more of a challenge

[IINoddyII]

I hear your pain

Posted this in the AD Framework thread in the server admin sub-forum a while ago:

One feature I'd like to see is a shuffle teams. Seeing a lot of stacked teams on our servers (which is fun for nobody in the end - but some people can't help being selfish it would seem)*. Rather than the admins swapping players individually it would be great if a command could be entered so at the beginning of the next round all players are unassigned from a team and slotted in on a random basis for the next round....

Just dreaming

Still hopeful

*Note: I am talking about non-clan affiliated servers here where the server is community made up from players from a number of clans as well as non-aligned players. People playing on a clan server should accept the fact that the clan owns the server and can run it how they see fit. Personally I prefer a model where stacks should be discouraged accepting that teamwork for both teams might suffer.

[Hunt3r]

"youmad bro"

Okay now that I've said that, my answer is to pretty much just play servers like TG/PRTA/CIA(Shameless plug , but hey we don't teamstack)

If you're in a server where people are teamstacking en masse, just leave and go to another server.

[Maverick]

I still don't see how TG is team stacking when it's not a clan...Hell I could slap a TG tag on me and there I go...

[ShockUnitBlack]

I still don't see how TG is team stacking when it's not a clan...Hell I could slap a TG tag on me and there I go...

Teamstacking does occur on the TG server from time to time, whether intentionally or not. It's almost always rebalanced for the next match however. TG in-house squads are somewhat clan-ish though and will usually play togehter.

[Rudd]

Anyone getting tired of people complaining about team stacks?

1) Accept that if you are loosing 50% of the time the game is balanced
2) If a server is stacked, DON'T PLAY THERE - its in the player's hands to choose the best servers only.
3) Usually I find its that one team needs to get its act together instead of whining.

[Hunt3r]

If you really feel that a server is teamstacked, try and get 32 people coordinating on mumble or something on one side, and then just leave en masse.

This isn't really a kind thing to do though.

[-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba]

Anyone getting tired of people complaining about team stacks?

1) Accept that if you are loosing 50% of the time the game is balanced
2) If a server is stacked, DON'T PLAY THERE - its in the player's hands to choose the best servers only.
3) Usually I find its that one team needs to get its act together instead of whining.

to 1.) i see a teamstacking on more than 50% the time and servers.

to2.) as there not so many servers populated (ususally around 10 full servers and 5 half filled?) its not to easy to find another server

to3.) exactly that is the problem: a team on which players not know where to go on a map and justhave a vBF2 procedure in mind will take a very long time to get his acts together. much more time than a 2-3 veteran squads will need to solve all objectives.

basicly you can call any feedback or critic "whining". that denial of discussion is happening very often lately, especially in the gaming world. me personally would call "whining" if the reason has no value, for example when a team makes the map responsible for loosing the match.
teamstacking for me happens because the ppl who play together dont wanna fight each other, what is understandable. but on long term all is getting unbalanced.
pls have a deeper look into this.

[Rudd]

pls have a deeper look into this.

what is your solution then?

Servers like TG intentionally move players to different teams to balance it out, I play there because there are so many players there like myself who are willing to move to a team that has consistently been losing in order to balance out.

Thats the fix

its in the players an admin's hands

players are not moddable

So often I see players ingame going "omg they have 5 more clantags on their team than we do, I'm not even going to try"

to 1.) i see a teamstacking on more than 50% the time and servers.

50% of all comments on the internet are regarding the moon
I can pull stats out of my head too

to2.) as there not so many servers populated (ususally around 10 full servers and 5 half filled?) its not to easy to find another server

5 half filled servers....thats 5 choices for you to go to...thats a pretty good amount of choice

basicly you can call any feedback or critic "whining".

I invite you to retract that comment, After all the hours the PR team has spent reading feedback and trying out suggestions I would have thought we'd earned some more respect. The only denial of discussion atm is because the feedback and suggestion forums are closed, you know why that is.





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[-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba]

me was starting a similiar thread about teamstacking some days ago, and as i know that no Rdev or Admin can "mod the players" i asked simply the community as a whole to get more fairness into the gameplay.
and im sure not talking about teams where one side have 5 tags more than the other. pm me for screens i can show and take ss every day, especially in the evening hours, showing an unbalance.

5 half filled servers....thats 5 choices for you to go to...thats a pretty good amount of choice

true, but i tend to close the game when play on the team i started for an hour then get switched to the other team and then recognize i have to take one more hour to my squaddies explaining the basics starting from not to fire Machinegun while moving, not running away miles from the quad, not going for the sniperkit in a CQC and so on just to have them leaving the squad then cause we got wiped by hey, the superior team. then its enough for me and any other player who seeks for some hours gameplay.

I invite you to retract that comment, After all the hours the PR team has spent reading feedback and trying out suggestions I would have thought we'd earned some more respect. The only denial of discussion atm is because the feedback and suggestion forums are closed, you know why that is.

the PR team has made a nice work and the game is one of the few games around all shooters that is worth to play, otherwise i wouldnt play a mod of an 6year old engine. it is more attractive than any CoD or Bad Company or whatever. only Arma coming close. actually i dont have anything to complain about the game or the balance given by the game so i hope i didnt disrespected you in a way i didnt realize. if so pls let me know.

Edit: saying "pls have a deeper look into this" i was talking to u as a discussion partner, not as Rdev.

[Anazuke]

In my mind the problem with stacked teams is usually the attitude in your team which comes from players who are not in clan/community and are playing without tags. Seeing the enemy side filled with same tagged players usually ends up to you saying to yourself "f this we have no teamwork or good players, im just gonna fool around to have some fun". And when everyone is having the same thoughts it doesn't take a scientist to understand why the "team" is losing so hard. 2-3 good players standing in SL position and leading full squads can be a gamechanger whatever the level of skill on the grunts is.

When those 2-3 SLs are doing teamwork in encourages other SLs to work as a team aswell. Of course the SLs need to be very strict and keep the squad together. Kicking players for non- teamwork can be a answer aswell which requires good adminship. SLs could report the not-following-orders- ones and they would get the punishment that admins see the best for the situation.

These are my thoughts on the subject.

duro

[TeRR0R]

Fighting cluestacks is not fun and a waste of time.
I can understand that everyone want to play with his friends.
But excessive cluestacks are selfish and at other people's expense.

I try to avoid these servers and better help seeding others.
This is the only thing one can do about it.