C4 Blufor Suicide Vehicle on insurgency

Yellingman · Post by **Yellingman** » 2012-10-11 07:55

Some time ago i've been witness of some R-Dev clarifying subject as a bug or a glitch??? Can someone of fathers founders to approve or disapprove this statement?

[md]MadMak[rus] · Post by **[md]MadMak[rus]** » 2012-10-11 08:34

It is not a bug or a glitch. This is unrealistic tactics for conventional armies.

Tit4Tat · Post by **Tit4Tat** » 2012-10-11 08:49

'[md wrote:MadMak[rus];1823776']It is not a bug or a glitch. This is unrealistic tactics for conventional armies.

this ^^ and is not allowed on our servers.

The funny thing is that AA hip fire is a glitch and very annoying, but near impossible to police

L4gi · Post by **L4gi** » 2012-10-11 09:12

Its not a glitch. If it was, I guess it wouldve been removed in the last, oh... couple of years?

[md]MadMak[rus] · Post by **[md]MadMak[rus]** » 2012-10-11 09:15

Actually, we already have a big thread about C4
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... aches.html

Yellingman · Post by **Yellingman** » 2012-10-11 09:41

L4gi wrote:Its not a glitch. If it was, I guess it wouldve been removed in the last, oh... couple of years?

Yeah in couple of years, like these glitch on Ochamchira

In the NorthEast part of map, when you can dance, if you want to. You can leave your friends behind.

Yellingman · Post by **Yellingman** » 2012-10-11 09:42

'[md wrote:MadMak[rus];1823782']Actually, we already have a big thread about C4
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... aches.html

It's not a thread... It looks like big trash bucket... i can't find anything useful in it...

fabioxxxx · Post by **fabioxxxx** » 2012-10-11 14:16

I find it a valid tool ... insurgents could have a specific explosive in the insurgent engineer kit to put in vehicles ...just make the recharge slower

They always give stuff to blufor and take it from the insurgents... always new blufor stuff fighting the same old insurgents...

the effort needed to move a blufor engineer kit is always high... i would consider removing this so called "exploit" a **** move.

KiloJules · Post by **KiloJules** » 2012-10-11 14:50

Fabio, as I understand this discussion is about BluFor soldiers preping a humvee/logy-truck with (their own) C4 and wasting it to kill a hard cache and NOT insurgents killing an engineer, move the kit to their main base and start creating bombcars/bikes.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » 2012-10-11 15:44

Its a piss off and I actually saw it happen the other day. Sad thing was, it was an admin of the server doing it.

Murphy · Post by **Murphy** » 2012-10-11 15:48

Also very annoying when people use this tactic in AAS........against assets usually.

Sgt. Mahi · Post by **Sgt. Mahi** » 2012-10-11 15:51

I thought the "sticky code" was removed on the C4? At least for vehicles.

=HCM= Shwedor · Post by **=HCM= Shwedor** » 2012-10-11 16:26

I can see the use of C4 on friendly vehicles by insurgents being allowed, after all, what is the basic bomb car anyways? Check the rear seat of a regular bomb car and you see C4. Not to mention it is a great deterrent for BLUFOR using C4 on early caches. On the otherhand, BLUFOR should never place c4 on a friendly vehicle, as you lose tickets when blowing up friendly vehicles.

Not only is it hard as **** for insurgents to capture a C4 kit, but it is also quite tough to RTB it and use it. First, you must kill the enemy engineer. Then you must cycle the kit all the way back to main, avoiding the glitch spots on the map where the kit goes underground, such as Marlin's repair station or castle on Archer not to mention the enemy team. Next, you must create an ammunition source, the repair station alone is too slow in reloading the kit. You must also have several willing squadmates, one to reload the ammo, one to martyr, and one to destroy bikes/respawnable vehicles abandoned in the field to ensure a constant supply of bomb cars. All the while evading a pissed off enemy team and their armor. With all the effort that goes into using the BLUFOR C4 kit by insurgents, I believe that it isn't terribly unfair as long as main rape is also allowed on insurgency. AAS, NEVER should a C4 kit be used on friendly vehicles by either faction.

KillJoy[Fr] · Post by **KillJoy[Fr]** » 2012-10-11 16:35

For the Wannabeasoldieronpr

People play games for fun and absolute not for "pretending" to be a warrior on a pc(join the army for that) that why some people do this i think

Pvt.LHeureux · Post by **Pvt.LHeureux** » 2012-10-11 17:40

'KillJoy[Fr wrote:;1823892']For the Wannabeasoldieronpr

People play games for fun and absolute not for "pretending" to be a warrior on a pc(join the army for that) that why some people do this i think

I agree that I myself gets pissed off when fun elements get removed but this is still called Project Reality and conventionnal armies do not place C4s on their assets to kamikaze the enemy..

Yellingman · Post by **Yellingman** » 2012-10-11 19:30

Pvt.LHeureux wrote:I agree that I myself gets pissed off when fun elements get removed but this is still called Project Reality and conventionnal armies do not place C4s on their assets to kamikaze the enemy..

Oh my gosh. It's not about making game more realistic, it's about making game last longer than 20 minutes, and not making insurgents leave the server...

ComradeHX · Post by **ComradeHX** » 2012-10-11 19:36

'KillJoy[Fr wrote:;1823892']For the Wannabeasoldieronpr

People play games for fun and absolute not for "pretending" to be a warrior on a pc(join the army for that) that why some people do this i think

Those are WRONG people playing this game.

Correct people play this game for more reality-like stuff minus BS of video games.

C4 truck for BluFor is exactly the kind of BS in video game. Want homemade C4 suicidecar? Go play vBF2.

If insurgents get a lot of C4(or whatever other explosives available), of course they can/probably will use suicidebombing cars. Not BluFor.

KiloJules · Post by **KiloJules** » 2012-10-11 21:24

ComradeHX wrote:Those are WRONG people playing this game.

Correct people play this game for more reality-like stuff minus BS of video games.

C4 truck for BluFor is exactly the kind of BS in video game. Want homemade C4 suicidecar? Go play vBF2.

If insurgents get a lot of C4(or whatever other explosives available), of course they can/probably will use suicidebombing cars. Not BluFor.

Comrade, this is debatable (although I would fully agree!)...

Yellingman wrote:Oh my gosh. It's not about making game more realistic, it's about making game last longer than 20 minutes, and not making insurgents leave the server...

...but this here is a r-e-a-l-l-y good reason for not accepting this kind of BS!

Post by **Arab** » 2012-10-11 23:31

They should make it that the BlueFor C4 sticking on a friendly vehicle instantly detonates, pissing off the team for loosing an asset, and making a 60-second spawn for the offender. Make the asset respawn half the time it usually takes.

Or make their C4 non-stickable to vehicles for blue-force like what Sgt. Mahi said.

I don't see this in CIA server. At-least not when I am there.

=HCM= Shwedor · Post by **=HCM= Shwedor** » 2012-10-12 01:33

Is there any server which actually allows BLUFOR c4 cars? I've never seen a server that allows it. Does this thread have a point anymore other than confirming that all real PR players do not condone BLUFOR C4 vehicles? I don't think the sticking part is a bug or glitch, merely a feature left over from Vanilla for the OP.

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