Please go back to the good old times !!!

[metal]

hey guys, you've done a very good job with the PR mod, better than the original BF2 and all the other mods ... but!!
all the little mods like the Falklands, WW2 and Vietnam are just plain bad like beta ... Models may look good but the gameplay is really bad ... maybe it would have been better to focus on PR, new maps and fractions.
the mods play like bf2 fh2 vanilla.no really teamplay ... and be on every server now only played the shit minimods ....
I'm going to play no more PR and wait until the hype is over ... with the Minimods
Hope you come back better times when the people realize that too and come back to the PR Mod ...
I respect your work and am grateful for PR, but these 3 mods were just a waste of time ... looks good, can play crappy.

my opinion, that I just had to tell time to see how others think about the 3 mods ....

wish you all a happy new year .... and the version 1.0 again which is what it used to be ....

with friendly greetings
metal

[Marinko-YU]

The problem with this is that all of us dont share opinions.For me this 3 minimods are great and were great.And I love them especially normandy, I dont see any problem with the gameplay or anything else of course I love regular PR but a little change for a few days alwayys comes good

[BloodyDeed]

Minimods were/are side projects by some members of the development team and externals.
The main focus was and is the core mod with it's next release 1.0, don't worry.
These DLCs are additional content, not a replacement.

[Mineral]

Project Reality - PRSPY - Server and player browser and tracker - Create a buddy list - Launch PR directly

if you check most servers are already running 'normal' PR again. I think it's pretty normal when a game releases 7 new factions and 11 new maps that they get played a lot when they come out. They are part of PR now whether you like it or not But as bloody says there is a reason why they are called minimods. Look at them as free DLC! I can't see how you can see the minimods as a bad addition.

[Souls Of Mischief]

*Gets stuff for free
*Complains


HUR DUR

[Psyrus]

Not to mention that the actual 'mod/faction/setting' should make squad-all difference to the amount of teamplay. Sure, certain map/faction features can hold peoples' hands and lead them (forcibly) towards teamwork, but from the 'good old times' when I was playing back in pre 0.7, the mod would be considered 'shocking' by the likes of you, I'd say. The players, however, were of excellent calibre... or at least the ones that I played alongside

If there's seemingly no teamwork, lead a squad.. make your own teamwork.

I and another SL rolled the enemy team the other day because we used the most basic of communication skills between us. Don't blame the mod, blame the players

[SShadowFox]

I was playing and I saw a guy that wrote:

"this looks like FH for BF1942"

Then I remembered the good team-playing rounds I had there, great times.

*Gets stuff for free
*Complains


HUR DUR

[Rhino]

In what way are they "crappy" in your opinion? No good calling something **** then not giving a reason for it....

The minimods are basically just normal PR gameplay, with different factions, maps and weapons with slight variations to the gameplay like no scopes on normal rifles etc.

[Kothra]

In what way are they "crappy" in your opinion? No good calling something **** then not giving a reason for it....

The minimods are basically just normal PR gameplay, with different factions, maps and weapons with slight variations to the gameplay like no scopes on normal rifles etc.

I'm getting more of a vanilla BF2 feel from Normandy because you still instantly sight down a lot of the weapons, but once this is fixed I think it should feel quite a bit more like normal PR.

[Pvt.LHeureux]

If you think it sucks be more descriptive, I would like to fix what sucks...

[metal]

Not to mention that the actual 'mod/faction/setting' should make squad-all difference to the amount of teamplay. Sure, certain map/faction features can hold peoples' hands and lead them (forcibly) towards teamwork, but from the 'good old times' when I was playing back in pre 0.7, the mod would be considered 'shocking' by the likes of you, I'd say. The players, however, were of excellent calibre... or at least the ones that I played alongside

If there's seemingly no teamwork, lead a squad.. make your own teamwork.

I and another SL rolled the enemy team the other day because we used the most basic of communication skills between us. Don't blame the mod, blame the players

I have a good squad leader in the clan, but the problem as you wrote yourself, lies mostly in the people, and for the other squad leaders.
There are barely held on collusion.
Most squads always want to make only the nearest flag and kills, but not defend.

In what way are they "crappy" in your opinion? No good calling something **** then not giving a reason for it....

The minimods are basically just normal PR gameplay, with different factions, maps and weapons with slight variations to the gameplay like no scopes on normal rifles etc.

see above.
at the new minimods there partly 3 flags to defend simultaneously!
because 1 squad can not do anything alone. even if it is still as good.
that happens to 98 percent at the minimods
no binoculars. fools road map adopted for a vietnam map. cheap copy of PR with less team play and fun.
lots of bugs on the maps.
too dark and sometimes you wonder how people can see one in the grass even though you see yourself no enemy

this is also my opinion and I think it sucks.
I'm glad when the new release is there, then the minimods disappeared

thanks anyway, that there are PR-Mod ... I appreciate your work

[AfterDune]

I only see complaints - there's absolutely NOTHING constructive in your posts.

Why don't you provide some comments about how YOU think it can be made better? And saying it sucks sure doesn't help your position.

[rodrigoma]

This discussion reminds me of some hilarious one about bf3 I saw around the net, some-guys where actually against mod tools because they would make people play other things other than the Lame bf3 and reduce its population.

all this discussion:

[Pvt.LHeureux]

at the new minimods there partly 3 flags to defend simultaneously!

Normandy maps, no.
Falklands, no.
Only on La Drang yeah.

no binoculars.

Adapt, adaaaaaapt! Shoot more, use ammo, supress! That's how you win in minimods, put more lead towards the enemy instead of waiting to see one.

lots of bugs on the maps.

It would help if people reported them..

too dark and sometimes you wonder how people can see one in the grass even though you see yourself no enemy

Which maps?

I have to say that the para map for Normandy is a bit too dark, some people just pump up their gamma. Making it less dark would make it equal for everyone.

I'm glad when the new release is there, then the minimods disappeared

I wouldn't be so sure about that lol

[AfterDune]

I have to say that the para map for Normandy is a bit too dark, some people just pump up their gamma. Making it less dark would make it equal for everyone.

Tad Sae night is much darker, Overlord night is actually quite bright . Certainly not too dark.

[Rhino]

metal, you've got to found a far better argument than what you have and your approach is only making people who have a different view from you not want to even consider yours.

BTW, "no binoculars" you might want to start to get use too as that's a feature in v1.0 we have been just trying out in the minimods. While yes, its hard at first, it overall gives far better squad play once players have gotten over it and squad members rely more on their squad leader for observation and the squad leader can rely more on his squad to watch each of their sectors rather than everyone getting out their bincos, with no one covering encase someone creeps up on them.

I'm getting more of a vanilla BF2 feel from Normandy because you still instantly sight down a lot of the weapons, but once this is fixed I think it should feel quite a bit more like normal PR.

Ye, I don't like that bit of Normandy either but that's down to it using animations from the assets original mod which was made in line with vBF2 animations but hopefully at some point they will be re-animated to PR's standards

[Navo]

I think Goose Green has the best infantry gameplay you can get.
I actually ran out of ammo!

[Microwaife]

"No binoculars" is a great feature if you squadlead for example. Your squad gets way more efficient.
Hate it when I tell my squad: "enemy 230, 150 meters" and everyone is taking out their binos, then we all die because everyone is standing in the open getting killed.
If you have problems with other squads and you play with your clan, just let 4 people of your clan make INF squads and you'll have great gameplay. And this doesn't seem to be an issue of the minimods, more like an PR or Server issue.
Grass issue is in normal PR the same, since the undergrowth won't show after some distance. Just keep that in mind.

[Psyrus]

I have a good squad leader in the clan, but the problem as you wrote yourself, lies mostly in the people, and for the other squad leaders.
There are barely held on collusion.
Most squads always want to make only the nearest flag and kills, but not defend.

See, the issue is that you are good, and your SL was good, but maybe the other squads had no 'good' players. If you had left and made your own 6 man squad, then you and your good clan SL could've used lots of communication to create teamwork and a much better round.

Nothing to do with the minimod(s).

To the points about bugs, unpolished nature of the minimods etc, I can't disagree as those are all valid points... but having seen PR basically from the start to 1.0, I know that things like visual bugs or annoyances are of minor consequence in the long run. Game-breaking bugs like not having a HAT kit for one team, or the 0.8 era of crazy deviation were far worse for the mod than anything you're experiencing now