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Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 10:10
by Tommygun
Just been playing civi a bit and have a couple of questions.
Can I drop patches for myself and not break my martyr status (after 1 min of chilling)?
Can I drop patches for others without harming my martyr status?
If I pull out an epi or medi bag but not use it is my martyr status maintained?
If I die a martyr and have the message "You died as a martyr" can I be revived and enemy team still looses 10 intel points and all other bad things that happen when you kill an "innocent".
TIA
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 11:49
by Brainlaag
AFAIK it's a yes to all of your questions, unless they changed some stuff

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Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 11:57
by camo
TOMMYGUN!!!!!!!! Give us a link to your awesome voice in that fish documentary and i shall answer your questions.
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 13:04
by Tommygun
Camo! The fish thing not released yet but you can see me dancing badly here
No Limits Airwaves Gum TV Commercial - YouTube
I get all of about 3 seconds between 20and 23.
My other show on Spirituality is on TV here in ZA but not on youtube yet, you are going to have to assuage your desire for my voice like you waited for PRv1.0

I suspect brain laag is right tho.
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 13:38
by camo
Tommygun wrote:Camo! The fish thing not released yet but you can see me dancing badly here
No Limits Airwaves Gum TV Commercial - YouTube
I get all of about 3 seconds between 20and 23.
My other show on Spirituality is on TV here in ZA but not on youtube yet, you are going to have to assuage your desire for my voice like you waited for PRv1.0

I suspect brain laag is right tho.
Haha nice dancing man, was that a green screen behind you or did you dance in front of a football crowd?
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 14:18
by nAyo
Tommygun wrote:Just been playing civi a bit and have a couple of questions.
Can I drop patches for myself and not break my martyr status (after 1 min of chilling)?
Can I drop patches for others without harming my martyr status?
If I pull out an epi or medi bag but not use it is my martyr status maintained?
If I die a martyr and have the message "You died as a martyr" can I be revived and enemy team still looses 10 intel points and all other bad things that happen when you kill an "innocent".
TIA
It is yes to all of them except the third one. The medibag won't affect your martyr status ever even if you heal someone, and if you pull out an epipen you won't be a martyr anymore.
To make it very simple, you WON'T be killed as martyr anymore when :
- you pull out an epipen
- you pull out the resuscitate
And that's all, everything else can be used as you wish (yes you can heal people with medibag no problem)

Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 14:27
by Predator.v2
Haven't they changed the ROE rules for civis entering cars? Can someone give a detailed insight on that?
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 16:03
by Tommygun
You cant use cars, you are vulnerable (fair game) for 1 minute after exiting...i think

Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 22:54
by PR0_SNIPE
Read the manual. You'd learn things like this!
OK I'll tell you the things that make you not a martyr. You must not do the following things for 1 minute and after that you're a martyr until you do these things again.
1. Spawning
2. Using a vehicle (even riding)
3. Using a weapon (rocks, medic bag, patches, ladders and grappling hooks are fine)
4. Taking out your resuscitation or epipen weapons (even if you don't use them).
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 23:10
by Gracler
[quote=""PR_Manual"]Perform a resuscitation or administer an epinephrine shot[/quote]
[quote="PR0_SNIPE""]
4. Taking out your resuscitation or epipen weapons (even if you don't use them).[/quote]
You are sure that you only have to select it to break the rule and not actually "fire" it first?
Much easier to stay "safe" as a collaborator than I expected.
Get onto a roof with no ladders and dodge shotguns and steal enemy ropes

Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 23:26
by nAyo
Yes Gracler fairly sure. If it hasn't been changed since 0.98 then it doesn't need to be 'fired' first.
Pro_Snipe what you say is wrong for the number 3, rocks patches and medibag are okay and can be used. As I said it is very simple :
- wait one minute after you spawn
- don't pull out epipens
- don't pull out resuscitate
- don't get into a vehicle
- don't pick up a kit
Follow this and you'll always be killed as martyr!
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-28 23:54
by PR0_SNIPE
PR0_SNIPE wrote:(rocks, medic bag, patches, ladders and grappling hooks are fine)
I said they're 'fine' in the post.
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-29 00:59
by nAyo
My bad, the way you said it I thought you were only saying ladders and grappling hooks are fine

Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-29 12:35
by camo
I think its stupid that shotguns count as an arrest, makes it way too easy for bluefor.
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-29 12:46
by Ca6e
Manual says that u can be shoot and arrested if u:
-Spawn and u didnt wait 1 min
-Heal or revived teammate, and u didnt wait 1 min.
-drive a car, bike and u didnt wait 1 min
- shoot with shootgun or restrained.
U can have medi bag in your arms, just do not heal(getting points for healing) the same thing is with epipen.
U can use a rocks, binocs, grapling hooks and ladders
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-29 12:58
by Dogbox
Yo Tommygun! From ZA too? What server do you usually play on and do you know Afrikaans?!
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-29 13:16
by nAyo
Ca6e wrote:Manual says that u can be shoot and arrested if u:
-Spawn and u didnt wait 1 min
-Heal or revived teammate, and u didnt wait 1 min.
-drive a car, bike and u didnt wait 1 min
- shoot with shootgun or restrained.
U can have medi bag in your arms, just do not heal(getting points for healing) the same thing is with epipen.
U can use a rocks, binocs, grapling hooks and ladders
No, you can heal people with medibag I am sure of it I play civi 247
Pulling out epipens or resuscitate is the only thing that will make you lose your martyr status, even if you don't actually use them.
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-29 20:19
by IWI-GALIL.556FA
camo_jnr_jnr wrote:I think its stupid that shotguns count as an arrest, makes it way too easy for bluefor.
I agree, Bluefor already has enough advantages without this one.
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-29 20:34
by gipakok
IWI-GALIL.556FA wrote:I agree, Bluefor already has enough advantages without this one.
Withount it the bluefor litteraly won't be able to catch them. And in many times running after them will just be either suicide or potential teamkilling.
Re: Couple of Civi Questions...
Posted: 2013-08-29 20:37
by Brainlaag
camo_jnr_jnr wrote:I think its stupid that shotguns count as an arrest, makes it way too easy for bluefor.
You have to idea how many exploits there were before the shotguns got introduced as new method of arresting.
IWI-GALIL.556FA wrote:I agree, Bluefor already has enough advantages without this one.
Oh really? Then you haven't seen a fake Garry packed with civis get blown up by a tank. That, most of the time, assured victory, or a horde of convinced martyrs run into a mortar barrage.