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[Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 13:44
by KSVM_UA_
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 13:46
by Mineral
As usual the biggest factor in a new faction is that you'll need maps. It's such an importance , put your biggest focus on that first. I speak out of experience

Good luck with this. I'm sure there are some qualified people in the community.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 13:51
by KSVM_UA_
[R-DEV]Mineral wrote:As usual the biggest factor in a new faction is that you'll need maps. It's such an importance , put your biggest focus on that first. I speak out of experience

Good luck with this. I'm sure there are some qualified people in the community.
Thanks, Ive got some ideas, but they need some work to do with design, I'll try to do them faster. Maybe there will be some map schemes soon.We're working on it.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 14:13
by KSVM_UA_
Map concept update:AAS(Kharkov)-Big city with outskirts, Ukraine is holding the 2-4 town points, Russia is attacking from the outskirts. Vehicles: Ukraine: 4 UAZ, 2 KrAZ, 1 HMMWV, 2 BTR-7, 1 BTR-4, 2 Shilka's, 2 T-64E, 1 Mi-24. Russia: 2 UAZ, 2 Ural's, 2 BMP-3, 1 2K22 Tunguska, 3 T-90, 1 Mi-28. Ukraine-700 tickets. Russia-600. Scheme map is coming soon.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 14:16
by Mineral
I suggest making a design plan as well. Much more organized. Click on my signature picture to get a good example on how I made mine for the Syrian Community Faction.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 14:46
by Hokunin
Its all cool, but why did you choose "Oplot" tank as an MBT? Ukraine has almost 1000 - T64 tanks, 1302 - T72 tanks, 167 - T80UD tanks and only 8 to 10 - T84 oplot tank(U BM modernized version among them, which means U BM version is even less than 10). If theoretical war to start, T84 U BM Oplot tanks won't be the ones to take action. The main workhorse of Ukrainian tank battalion fists would be T72s or T80UDs.
I understand, you want to make your homeland army look badass and all by including all the rarest unique few warmachines. But isn't it kinda stretching it and unrealistic? Just my humble opinion. Do as you like of course.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 14:53
by KSVM_UA_
Hokunin wrote:Its all cool, but why did you choose "Oplot" tank as an MBT? Ukraine has almost 1000 - T64 tanks, 1302 - T72 tanks, 167 - T80UD tanks and only 8 to 10 - T84 oplot tank(U BM modernized version among them, which means U BM version is even less than 10). If theoretical war to start, T84 U BM Oplot tanks won't be the ones to take action. The main workhorse of Ukrainian tank battalion fists would be T72s or T80UDs.
I understand, you want to make your homeland army look badass and all by including all the rarest unique few warmachines. But isn't it kinda stretching it and unrealistic? Just my humble opinion. Do as you like of course.
According to the latest schemes and lists, there are 85 T-84U Oplot tanks, which are modifications of regular T-84,which are modifications of T-64, and 10 Oplot-M. These are 2 different tanks.
T-84U "Oplot"
BM "Oplot-M" (yep, best tank in the modern world)
2 different tanks. I even dont talking about BTMP-84(MBT with 5 passengers seats in back)
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 14:58
by Rudd
remember to be realistic with what you can achieve, retexturing the T72 with perhaps added child models might be alot easier, remember to try and portray the regular army, the average joes rather than the best tech etc.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 15:16
by KSVM_UA_
[R-DEV]Mineral wrote:I suggest making a design plan as well. Much more organized. Click on my signature picture to get a good example on how I made mine for the Syrian Community Faction.
Like that? Thanks. Now its much more organized.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 15:19
by KSVM_UA_
[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:remember to be realistic with what you can achieve, retexturing the T72 with perhaps added child models might be alot easier, remember to try and portray the regular army, the average joes rather than the best tech etc.
Yes, I thought about that, and maybe, I should get the regular T-64E modification, not the Oplot MBT.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 17:07
by simeon5541
To be honest,why not,although Ukraine doesn't posses some totally unique army it would be nice addition to PR because of number of other factors.I mean there is ton of NATO factions that are quite similar between themselves,so why not having two eastern conventional armies.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 17:35
by SShadowFox
Maps aren't an issue, there's Kozelsk to start with, the Ukrainians could be used in place of the Militia (taking recent events into consideration).
I can get a Design Plan set for you, just need some clear info on what you want, vehicles, weapons, etc.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 18:08
by KSVM_UA_
SShadowFox wrote:Maps aren't an issue, there's Kozelsk to start with, the Ukrainians could be used in place of the Militia (taking recent events into consideration).
I can get a Design Plan set for you, just need some clear info on what you want, vehicles, weapons, etc.
If you want so.
Weapon list:
AKS-74U
AKS-74
AK-74 PSO-1
AK-74
AKS-74 GP-25
AKS-74 PSO-1 GP-25
PKM
SVD
L96(AWM)
RPK-74
RPG-7 (2 warheads)
RPG-26
Fort-12
Saiga-12
Vehicular list:
UAZ-469
HMMWV M1097
KrAZ-6322
BRDM-2
BMP-2
BTR-80
BTR-3
BTR-4
MT-LBSh
T-64E
Aircrafts:
MiG-29
Su-25
Choppers:
Mi-24
Mi-8.
I think that's all. Maybe forgot 1-2 things, but okay.
And yes, Kozelsk with little changes can be useful.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 18:12
by KSVM_UA_
Update on AAS map. Name-Kharkiv.(2x2 km)
Big city with outskirts, Ukraine is holding the 3 town points, Russia is attacking from the outskirts. Vehicles: Ukraine: 4 UAZ, 2 KrAZ, 1 HMMWV, 2 BTR-7, 1 BTR-4, 2 Shilka's, 2 T-64E, 1 Mi-24. Russia: 2 UAZ, 2 Ural's, 2 BMP-3, 1 2K22 Tunguska, 3 T-90, 1 Mi-28. Ukraine-650 tickets. Russia-600. IMHO looks better then Sbeneh. If we can model it right. Scheme map is down below.

Oops. Left Alpha point is Alpha 2, my fault.
P.S. Thanks to all for active help and feedback.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 18:53
by Ason
Can you show pictures of the map or is it just a concept?
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 18:57
by KSVM_UA_
Ason wrote:Can you show pictures of the map or is it just a concept?
Just a concept. Problem is that i operate Win7, and I can't work with maps.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 19:08
by SShadowFox
Here is the Design Plan:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
I done it quite quickly and some parts are still missing, I need your e-mail in order to grant you access to edit it as you wish. I done the kits so that they can use as much of the things available in PR as possible. Most of the things that need to be done can be attached by code later on, so there won't be much modeling tasks besides the weapons and vehicles that aren't in-game at all.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 19:46
by KSVM_UA_
SShadowFox wrote:Here is the Design Plan:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
I done it quite quickly and some parts are still missing, I need your e-mail in order to grant you access to edit it as you wish. I done the kits so that they can use as much of the things available in PR as possible. Most of the things that need to be done can be attached by code later on, so there won't be much modeling tasks besides the weapons and vehicles that aren't in-game at all.
Thanks. Email is in PM. Kits are good but IMHO Officer Alt must have AKS-74U, like the Chechens or Insurgents.
And Mi-24 got 6 passenger seats. We'll fix it.
Good luck for both of us...
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-25 21:56
by SShadowFox
I fixed what you said and now you can edit it as well.
Re: [Faction Concept] Ukraine Armed Forces
Posted: 2014-05-26 05:07
by KSVM_UA_
SShadowFox wrote:I fixed what you said and now you can edit it as well.
Thanks, and here is a new INS map concept
Map name - Vrubivka.(2x2 km)
Ukraine vehicles: 2 UAZ, 1 supply KrAZ, 2 BTR-3, 2 MT-LBMSh, 1 ZSU-23-4, 1 T-64E and 1 Mi-8.
Chechen vehicles: 7-10 civil cars, 2 DShKM technical, 1 SPG technical,1 Ural ZU-23-2, 2 BMP-1, 1 T-62.
Ukraine have 650 tickets, Chechens-usual 5 caches.
Scheme is down below.
