xXMaSTeRXx wrote:Nevertheless, real proof that separates Civilians from Real Professionals with 1 look is much better. btw, if you ever want to verify my credential even more then I am more than happy to send you scans of my DD-214 and Military awards.
The game works different from reality in several aspects(eg. 5.56mm rifles not having to account for bullet drop) so it's not like it matters too much whether you've gone through it all or not. The majority of players learn radio procedures and other stuff that can be applied to a video game by playing and mimicking those who do know about it until they eventually got the hang of it, and some are capable of using these to the point that you wouldn't know whether or not they serve(d). It really does not matter.
I hate pulling my military background out and flaunt, but at time like these, it really irritates me to see a Military Gaming Community with such crappy ingame leadership most of the times.
That happens. If you're fed up with your squad leader, lead your own squad instead or help the person in charge by making suggestions every now and then. This is still a game, nobody is forced to obey a chain of command - treat it more as a collaboration project instead.
be in my shoes for a second, I went through the "REAL" military, been in combat, come back and deal with some bullshits over the internet because some wannabe soldier 18 years old kid making executive decisions in a Military simulation game.
I understand where you're coming from. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to categorize players in those with RL background and those with, since, as I said above, veteran(don't take this the wrong way) players are surprisingly good at this kind of stuff.
It is in no way disgusting or inappropriate! Veterans should get higher ranking because they are more than qualified to fucking lead a bunch of fanboys in a video game when we earned our experiences in real life and real combats.
But this isn't reality - even without RL qualifications people can be up for the task of leading a squad in a video game successfully, and some do so beautifully. You just haven't met them yet.
I am US Army War Veteran; I did my fucking time and my job and earned every last ounce of respect from that fucking war. I'll scan you my fucking DD-214 ANNND my Deployment history Report, ANND my fucking Airborne Qualification ANNd my fucking disability claim for my injuries in Afghanistan and you can check that with your "mature" community for any other vets to verify it.
Never have I made any attempts to belittle your efforts and you risking your life. Never have I said you did not doing anything of what you did.
With that being said, none of this does matter here when it comes down to whether or not your suggestion is a good one. And I disagree with you for the reasons I stated above.
Really dissapointed to be treated that way, but that was to be expected from a German who uses broomsticks as cannons and has no real military.
If you read again you'll find that I never treated you with disrespect for who you are and what you did; I just think your suggestion isn't a good one because all it does is giving people like yourself reason to think of themselves superior to others for no reason that is related to the game. In case you need a reminder:
I hate pulling my military background out and flaunt, but at time like these, it really irritates me to see a Military Gaming Community with such crappy ingame leadership most of the times.
I went through the "REAL" military, been in combat, come back and deal with some bullshits over the internet because some wannabe soldier 18 years old kid making executive decisions in a Military simulation game.
Veterans should get higher ranking because they are more than qualified to fucking lead a bunch of fanboys in a video game when we earned our experiences in real life and real combats.
I am US Army War Veteran; I did my fucking time and my job and earned every last ounce of respect from that fucking war. I'll scan you my fucking DD-214 ANNND my Deployment history Report, ANND my fucking Airborne Qualification ANNd my fucking disability claim for my injuries in Afghanistan and you can check that with your "mature" community for any other vets to verify it.
Really dissapointed to be treated that way, but that was to be expected from a German who uses broomsticks as cannons and has no real military.
(This amounts to about 75% of your previous comment. The only things left out are the opening line and the legal stuff - fyi, I'm aware)
Your previous comment is the prime example of why I'm opposed to your idea.
Oh, and it doesn't stop there, you don't just belittle all non-servicemen(as if that wasn't an inappropriate thing to do), but between US servicemen and non-US servicemen, too. May I suggest you throw in a ranking between the different armies too so you can feel even better among the people with the "certified RL experience tag"?
@Rudd:
Now please gents cool it, frontliner you used a very poor choice of words but I expect that your true meaning was lost in translation.
Harsh as I was, the words I used were put there because they convey what I wanted to say and, in contrast to what Master thought I wrote, none of it was targeting his work, discrediting him or otherwise insulting. You can't tell me that "disgusting" and "inappropriate" are strong words, and while yes, the phrase "you should be ashmed of yourself" isn't particularly nice, belittling others also isn't nice and was said so that he goes back and reflects on what he said and whether or not his suggestion is ok. Instead he laid out exactly the reason why I was opposed to his idea(which I demonstrated above) and used his closing words for a low blow, making my nationality topic just to spite me.
If you still think there was a way to phrase myself nicer and less conflicting and less insulting than not at all, PM me.
