missiles for insurgents/militia

SpetsnazFox · Post by **SpetsnazFox** » 2007-01-04 22:23

what about some improvised artillery missiles like the Hezbollah used for insurgents or the upcoming militia

example

should be deployable in a pickup-kit because it's better for the hit and run tactics (build it up, shot some salves and relocate at another position)

will there be some real missile artillery like MLRS later? i saw the render but it looked older

Fracsid · Post by **Fracsid** » 2007-01-04 22:40

That artillery looks like something i could build in garry's mod in about 5 minutes, lol. I doubt the bf2 engine supports deployable weapons like that, and if it did, it would probably be a pain for the devs to create.

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2007-01-04 22:42

Maybe it could replace the artillery or something? Or use a similar system? Would be a pain in the *** to aim I'm afraid.

SpetsnazFox · Post by **SpetsnazFox** » 2007-01-04 22:46

weren't there deployable mortars in Rising Conflicts?

Animalmother · Post by **Animalmother** » 2007-01-04 22:57

I love the idea, its mine too

And not only hezbollah uses them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x19aRBijwe4

Maybe something along the lines of that would be nice in PR. Ahh rocket attack! And forget the precision artillery point and click, you lay the rocket down, point it up, light fuse. Visual aiming ftw.

Daedal-Rogue · Post by **Daedal-Rogue** » 2007-01-05 00:46

SpetsnazFox wrote:weren't there deployable mortars in Rising Conflicts?

There were deployable mortars in Allied Intent

Griffon2-6 · Post by **Griffon2-6** » 2007-01-05 00:59

Yeah, but all you had to do was throw it down and enter it.

dunkellic · Post by **dunkellic** » 2007-01-05 02:26

keep in my that hizbollah hat some top-notch weapons at their disposal, like the newest kornet rockets

Post by **GeZe** » 2007-01-05 02:33

they also have RPG-29's

...The warhead is extremely powerful, and in tests conducted against T-80 and T-90 tanks it penetrated the tanks over their frontal arcs...

Penetration performance:
* Rolled homogeneous armor (after reactive armor effects): 750 mm (30 in)
* Reinforced concrete or brick: 1,500 mm (59 in)
* Log and earth fortification: 3,700 mm (146 in)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rpg_29

If the insurgents had that.. mmmm...

1 hit 1 kill on any tank

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-01-05 11:27

supposedly 1 hit kill on the frontal armor of a T90. but thats alot of speculation and it wouldnt be any more powerfull than the eyrx in game now.

make the insergents good for bashing the MEC.

dunkellic · Post by **dunkellic** » 2007-01-05 13:14

also the armor of russian tanks is much weaker than that of western tanks - just look at the weight differences between a t80/90 and a leo2a6/m1a2

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-01-05 16:00

Really 1 shot from an RPG29 could take a Challenger 2 or M1A2 some how i dont belive this...

dunkellic · Post by **dunkellic** » 2007-01-05 18:32

robbo wrote:Really 1 shot from an RPG29 could take a Challenger 2 or M1A2 some how i dont belive this...

there is at least one m1a2 that has been taken out in iraq by a single rpg (verified) - but that was a "golden rpg". also, i know the site that states that an rpg-29 can penetrate the front armor of a t-80 and stuff, but even then, i doubt the tank was destroyed - rather damaged or so.

rpgs pose less of a threat to challengers and abrams, yet that doesnt mean they can´t destroy/damage it

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-01-05 18:45

Whats the Armour like on the Latest Lepord (sorry dont no much about the german tank) any info would be nice.

Thunder · Post by **Thunder** » 2007-01-05 19:27

dunkellic wrote:there is at least one m1a2 that has been taken out in iraq by a single rpg (verified) - but that was a "golden rpg". also, i know the site that states that an rpg-29 can penetrate the front armor of a t-80 and stuff, but even then, i doubt the tank was destroyed - rather damaged or so.

rpgs pose less of a threat to challengers and abrams, yet that doesnt mean they can´t destroy/damage it

theres a case where a challenger 2 bogged down took sustained rpg fire for about a hour before being pulled out.

no modern tank can survive a frontal hit from another modern tank at a range of less than 800 meters which was a shock to me when i heared it.

dunkellic · Post by **dunkellic** » 2007-01-05 20:05

'[5NFSO wrote:Thunder']theres a case where a challenger 2 bogged down took sustained rpg fire for about a hour before being pulled out.

no modern tank can survive a frontal hit from another modern tank at a range of less than 800 meters which was a shock to me when i heared it.

yeah, usually the tanks are rpg-proof
but i´m not shure about that frontal hit thing - really depends on what, i´m not shure wether for example a challenger 2 couldnt take a heat round from another tank (but would be possible)

Whats the Armour like on the Latest Lepord (sorry dont no much about the german tank) any info would be nice.

the leopard 2 uses a composite armor - the exact composition is secret, but there is no depleted uranium in it.
funny thing is, that most people won´t believe me this, including the guys from wikipedia.com, that claim that it uses perforated steel. now, i know, some might say i have no source and all such - but actually, i emailed the friggin german army and asked them and they replied "in der tat verwended der leopard 2 eine kompositpanzerung" (translation: "indeed the leopard 2 uses a composite armor") - but noooo, they don´t believe it (*morons*).
the newer versions (a4/a5/46/s/pso/m and so on) all feature additional armor, which i dont think is of composite nature, but i could be wrong.

due to the "lack" of du (which the german government decided not to implement due to several reasons) the armor is somewhat inferior (but not too much) compared to the challanger and the m1a2, but the tank has other qualities