M113 armor

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ComradeHX
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Re: M113 armor

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Apparently it resists higher caliber weapons slightly better than steel while being worse to smaller caliber weapons:
M113 armour - Armor Scientific Forum - tank-net.com

Maybe the materials need to be played around with a little more to find out how much damage it actually takes?
Cossack
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Re: M113 armor

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Well, that's why its called shitbox or metal coffin. Because its simply the worst available APC.
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Jacksonez__
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Re: M113 armor

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Cossack wrote:Well, that's why its called shitbox or metal coffin. Because its simply the worst available APC.
The worst APC would be 7.62 MT-LB. Worse armor than M113 and small caliber gun. M113 is good in close combat since the gunner has fast turning gun turret.
ComradeHX
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Re: M113 armor

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Jacksonez__ wrote:The worst APC would be 7.62 MT-LB. Worse armor than M113 and small caliber gun. M113 is good in close combat since the gunner has fast turning gun turret.
M113 is literally worse in close range because gunner can be shot out of it.

MT-LB at least has turret.

Turret turn speed isn't that important in this game.
Roque_THE_GAMER
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Re: M113 armor

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also the gunner head seems to be bigger on this APC.
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ComradeHX
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Re: M113 armor

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Roque_THE_GAMER wrote:also the gunner head seems to be bigger on this APC.
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viirusiiseli
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Re: M113 armor

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Jacksonez__ wrote:The worst APC would be 7.62 MT-LB. Worse armor than M113 and small caliber gun. M113 is good in close combat since the gunner has fast turning gun turret.
Meh, MT-LB 7.62mm is the most deadly shit in good users hands. Gotten some 70 kills with MT-LB where as only around 30 with M113 in one round.

Zoom and closed turret is always better choice, no matter what the weapon.

Anyway, on topic, I tested this and fired a couple of magazines to no effect at the side armor with DShK. Only kills it from back armor.
Jacksonez__
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Re: M113 armor

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MT-LB vs. M113 armor

hit from RPG-26..
  • tracks MT-LB if hit in the side
  • M113 is smoking grey
  • destroys MT-LB if hit in the back hatch
  • M113 is smoking grey and sparking a little bit
1x .50 cal belt (mag)..
  • destroys MT-LB if hit in the front armor
  • seems to do nothing for M113
I think M113 armor is a little bit weird. Or I don't know.
Murphy
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Re: M113 armor

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I don't believe you can penetrate the M113 with small arms anymore, I recall setting these things ablaze regularly when they were the predominant means of transportation on Asad. The other day on Beirut we couldn't get it smoking with the whole squad opening up on it. I believe the vehicle is meant to protect against such attacks and as such I do believe it is finally adjusted to where it should have been a while ago.
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Mouthpiece
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Re: M113 armor

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Jacksonez__ wrote:The worst APC would be 7.62 MT-LB. Worse armor than M113 and small caliber gun. M113 is good in close combat since the gunner has fast turning gun turret.
You kidding? 7.62 is a beast in Muttrah in the right hands (as you can't get hurt by small arms). It can mow down inf squad one after another. You just have to keep going. It's especially good if you use it in docks area as a means of stalling the USMC advance in the first minutes. When the round starts, just jump in with your gunner, go to docks and almost never stop. Try to stay on the W side of docks. At least that's what I do. It's like an inf lawn mower.

Also it's really useful in Jabal. Just quickly rush to the lower side of dam and start your lawn mowing there. Shoot people out of hueys, shoot people that have just jumped out of hueys and so on.

Ofc it sucks compared to other APC's, but it has it's perks at the right time and the right place.

On topic: If M113 is really that hard to take down with .50 cal then it must have a little bit too much armor. After all it isn't an uparmored version. For all we know, It's the same aluminium can they used in Vietnam. So nerf the armor plox.
Jacksonez__
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Re: M113 armor

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Mouthpiece wrote:You kidding? 7.62 is a beast in Muttrah in the right hands (as you can't get hurt by small arms). It can mow down inf squad one after another. You just have to keep going. It's especially good if you use it in docks area as a means of stalling the USMC advance in the first minutes. When the round starts, just jump in with your gunner, go to docks and almost never stop. Try to stay on the W side of docks. At least that's what I do. It's like an inf lawn mower.

Also it's really useful in Jabal. Just quickly rush to the lower side of dam and start your lawn mowing there. Shoot people out of hueys, shoot people that have just jumped out of hueys and so on.

Ofc it sucks compared to other APC's, but it has it's perks at the right time and the right place.

On topic: If M113 is really that hard to take down with .50 cal then it must have a little bit too much armor. After all it isn't an uparmored version. For all we know, It's the same aluminium can they used in Vietnam. So nerf the armor plox.
When the round starts, just jump in with your gunner, go to docks and almost never sto
most (or some servers) have rules that you can't rush the first flag, so. Pretty cheap tactic to rush the first flag anyways.

Though we once flanked big time in Bijar to last flag and carried our team into victory with MT-LB 7,62 lol. That's the only time I found it useful. Also the 12,7 MT-LB is very good for anti air in Jabal and Muttrah. I like that one, but not the 7,62 one.

M113 can survive LAT easy and resists .50 cal too much. MT-LB can be destroyed with anything that shoots, tested even with the AKS-74U.
X-Alt
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Re: M113 armor

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Jacksonez__ wrote:most (or some servers) have rules that you can't rush the first flag, so. Pretty cheap tactic to rush the first flag anyways.

Though we once flanked big time in Bijar to last flag and carried our team into victory with MT-LB 7,62 lol. That's the only time I found it useful. Also the 12,7 MT-LB is very good for anti air in Jabal and Muttrah. I like that one, but not the 7,62 one.

M113 can survive LAT easy and resists .50 cal too much. MT-LB can be destroyed with anything that shoots, tested even with the AKS-74U.
Even tanks can be killed by enough AK fire..
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