F-35A Highly unnecessary

[yellodeath]

So the netherlands faction uses the F-35A lightning II on maybe one map, but why? The country only has TWO according to wikipedia, and is probably still far from actually ever using them.

I feel like the netherlands faction having such an experimental vehicle belittles other factions that could have improved or more recent vehicles that are actually used in combat.

[Wheres_my_chili]

If they use it then it should have all the pros and cons that the real f 35 has. Stealth so you cant lock it, vtol so you can hover and hide in the trees, and an oxygen system that randomly shuts off every few minutes and kills the pilot.

That would be awesome.

[Hokunin]

So the netherlands faction uses the F-35A lightning II on maybe one map, but why? The country only has TWO according to wikipedia, and is probably still far from actually ever using them.

I feel like the netherlands faction having such an experimental vehicle belittles other factions that could have improved or more recent vehicles that are actually used in combat.

I'm not sure if it is the case now, but netherlands also used to have SILENCERS, which some user from Netherland reasoned that they have em cuz the netherland SPEC-OPS use silencers....and here I thought we have conventional armies warfare.

I think its because overly patriotic(not saying its bad) Netherland c-devs created their "dream army", how they wish to see it, even if the featured techs and gear can be counted with the fingers on your hand and or/are never in service with normal army. That's just not cool guys, lets have realistic approach to things.

Cuz if we do things as Netherland guys do, then U.S. army would be fighting with lasers, microwave cannons and railguns.

[Rhino]

If you read the wiki a little more you would have noticed it says:

Royal Netherlands Air Force: F-35A: 2 delivered and in testing, 8 ordered, 37 total planned

PR isn't set at any specific time, other than historical ones like PR:Vietnam maps. Hades Peak is set a little in the future, hence why the Dutch are flying the F-35A.

vtol so you can hover and hide in the trees, and an oxygen system that randomly shuts off every few minutes and kills the pilot.

That's the F-35B your thinking of

and an oxygen system that randomly shuts off every few minutes and kills the pilot.

Think that's the F-22 your thinking of

[viirusiiseli]

PR isn't set at any specific time, other than historical ones like PR:Vietnam maps. Hades Peak is set a little in the future, hence why the Dutch are flying the F-35A.

That's the only vehicle that's from the future in PR AFAIK. All the other vehicles in the factions are stuff that are already widely used. Why the deviation?

[Acecombatzer0]

The USMC is introducing the F-35B later this year, and the USAF will get the F-35A operational probably well before the Dutch do.

IMO Project Reality should take place in an alternate reality taking place around the the year 2012(ish), instead of taking place in the "near future", because it is becoming impossible for a mod to keep upgrading equipment/updating models to the modern standards of today's militaries, especially with all these factions in play.

I understand the Dutch MBTs for balancing reasons, but the F-35 should really go IMO.

EDIT: It also came to mind that the Iraqi maps in the mod can be considered "historical" due to them being based on RL battles in the 2003-2010 Iraqi conflict, most notably Al Basrah and Fallujah

It would be neat to see those two maps resemble circa 2003 USMC and UK forces (Not as many ACOGS, and the Brits getting the pre-v.95 SA-80 rifles)

[Mineral]

In a perfect world we would have everything. Now we have what we have. Ain't going to change.

Also, PUMA.

[AnA10Warthog]

Don't the Dutch use the F-16 on that map in addition to the F-35? I feel like that shows how it's not in frontline service, but it exists.

[Barbrady]

I'm not sure if it is the case now, but netherlands also used to have SILENCERS, which some user from Netherland reasoned that they have em cuz the netherland SPEC-OPS use silencers....and here I thought we have conventional armies warfare.

I think its because overly patriotic(not saying its bad) Netherland c-devs created their "dream army", how they wish to see it, even if the featured techs and gear can be counted with the fingers on your hand and or/are never in service with normal army. That's just not cool guys, lets have realistic approach to things.

Cuz if we do things as Netherland guys do, then U.S. army would be fighting with lasers, microwave cannons and railguns.

It's the same with the US vehicles, you can hit a wall with fullspeed with almost every US ground vehicle and it takes no to little damage, while with every others faction vehicles you even get damaged from just driving in difficult terrain.

[Rudd]

the work on the F35 had been done, was a shame not to use it

[KaB]

It's the same with the US vehicles, you can hit a wall with fullspeed with almost every US ground vehicle and it takes no to little damage, while with every others faction vehicles you even get damaged from just driving in difficult terrain.

And german tanks blow up when they hit haystacks

[AnimalMother.]

You could argue this for the British acquisition of the F35B in real life...



From the game point of view more variety is a bad thing?

[Mineral]

We are pretty much arma 3 with all our futuristic content

I'm with Rudd on this one. + Variety is nice. Factions aren't skins. They are supposed to provide new gameplay.

[mat552]

And german tanks blow up when they hit haystacks

With great speed comes great responsibility.

[StevePl4y5]

I'm not sure if it is the case now, but netherlands also used to have SILENCERS, which some user from Netherland reasoned that they have em cuz the netherland SPEC-OPS use silencers....and here I thought we have conventional armies warfare.

I think its because overly patriotic(not saying its bad) Netherland c-devs created their "dream army", how they wish to see it, even if the featured techs and gear can be counted with the fingers on your hand and or/are never in service with normal army. That's just not cool guys, lets have realistic approach to things.

Cuz if we do things as Netherland guys do, then U.S. army would be fighting with lasers, microwave cannons and railguns.

To be honest I think it's fair enough that comfac devs have some freedom to put stuff like this that might not be entirely realistic because said army maybe only has a few of these vehicles, or maybe experimental vehicles. Why? Because all the major world armies are already in PR, and most of the other armies just use equipment that these major armies use, which means that if we do every comfac set realistically to every little detail, new comfacs will only mean the introduction of 2 or 3 new vehicles and weapons. It's more interesting to just put new stuff in, even if the armies in question haven't fully adopted said piece of equipment. But that's just my opinion.

[Brozef]

Nothing against the F35 but please replace the Su27's with Mig29's. You guys have turned that beautiful Flanker into an ***.

[PricelineNegotiator]

I was dogfighting someone in an Su-27 on Hades in 1.3.0.0 and was overtaken in a turning fight. It was actually one of the craziest things I've had happen to me in a PR dogfight. It was a 2-3 minute turning fight at like 100 altitude if I recall correctly.

[simeon5541]

I agree that giving F-35 to Netherlands is plain silly,since it is questionable will USA get to use it any foreseeable future.I was very enthusiastic about Netherlands faction,but when seen them using F-35s,Suppressors,broken ugl animations...It felt like I was playing some of those come and go BF2 mods that
pop up every few days on MODDB,rather than PR.

[Rhino]

....

Moved your post to here since it has pretty much nothing to do with this topic.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f22-mi ... ost2079608