Puma's armor

[angryPiG_RUS]

Look at the demo. After that round I created solo game and tested Russian tandem HEAT on Puma. It becomes immobilized after hit in the side armor, but as you can see on my video it didn't. A freacking PG-7VR! And the Russian IFVs are just getting oneshoted by German LAT hit in side armor. Project "Reality" as is.

[Jacksonez__]

Wild guess but can you shoot the RPG-7VR too close? I mean maybe you just shot too close. Dev could give clarification here

[DogACTUAL]

No offense mate, but the german IFV is better armored than the russian ones.
In return the russian IFVs have way better weapons than the german ones.

[angryPiG_RUS]

No offense mate, but the german IFV is better armored than the russian ones.
In return the russian IFVs have way better weapons than the german ones.

Sure they are, but that doesn't play any role when it comes to heavy warhead with 650mm penetration.

[DogACTUAL]

That value is the penetration for rolled homogeneus steel armour. The warhead will not penetrate nearly as much when hitting modern composite armour (possibly +reactive armor and/or +slat armour).

Looking at the stats for this IFV it has the possibilty to add additional armor plates with ERA for better protection, which seems to be its normal combat loadout.

I am not an expert on the matter so i don't know if the warhead would penetrate or not, i guess it would depend on the situation and what part of the armour would be hit. But if i had to guess i would say it would penetrate the armour since it is a tandem heat.

But penetration doesn't equal a vehicle kill, so even if it penetrates the vehicle might be mostly fine, depending what the metal jet hits ones it has penetrated and how much energy it has left.
Considering that this IFV is one of the best protected and heavy ones there is, i think it is not that much of a strech that its armour would absorb much of the energy of the metal jet before it penetrates.

So i think that this IFV could very well survive this hit, also consider that in your video it barely made it out of there, it was almost burning.

[tankninja1]

I liked how it pooped out a ammo box right after it got hit.

[viirusiiseli]

Not too far off considering Puma's combat weight without add-on armor is around 30 tonnes, and with armor over 40 tonnes. For reference normal APCs or even IFVs often weigh between 10-20 tonnes. Gives you an idea of the level of protection on each, although it is not a completely accurate indication. If any APCs are to survive a HAT it's the namer, puma and bradley.

[Frontliner]

Look at the demo. After that round I created solo game and tested Russian tandem HEAT on Puma. It becomes immobilized after hit in the side armor, but as you can see on my video it didn't. A freacking PG-7VR! And the Russian IFVs are just getting oneshoted by German LAT hit in side armor. Project "Reality" as is.

It's funny you're complaining about the only LAT-category weapon that would probably down every Russian IFV(and a couple of the unupgraded T-72 variants) IRL regardless of angle. Just for comparison's sake, the Pzf 3 has a reported 700mm penetration compared the 650mm of the RPG.

Unless they changed it due to a complaint I've seen somebody make years ago on the Pzf 3 being too weak by comparison, I do believe the Pzf 3 has the same stats(roughly) as every medium AT besides speed ever since the German forces were introduced in 0.95, so it's either a) every LAT is too powerful or b) the Pzf 3 too weak.

[tankninja1]

For reference normal APCs or even IFVs often weigh between 10-20 tonnes.

Depends on what you want to call a normal APC/IFV. Warriors and Bradley's come in somewhere around 30 tonnes, up to ~35 with full combat load and armor upgrades. Anything with wheels and just about everything Russian and Chinese produced prior to 2010 is going to be closer to or less than 20 tonnes. I'm not to sure about how much the really new Russian vehicles weigh though from pictures they look to be considerably heavier than their older vehicles.

[tankninja1]

I've been poking around the internet and the arming range for the RPG is somewhere between 10-25m, given the HAT has more explosives in the war head it seems like it could be possible that the arming range is closer to 25m. Then again the slower HAT rocket could have the same fuse as the LAT and be arming closer to 10m because of the slower velocity of the HAT.

[Mats391]

Arming distance only matters for explosions, not for impact damage.

[tankninja1]

RPGs do impact damage?

[Mats391]

RPGs do impact damage?[/QUOTE

Yes

[DogACTUAL]

Same for LGBs, when you drop them next to a tank, even if they didn't arm and don't explode you will still kill the tank.

[viirusiiseli]

Same for LGBs, when you drop them next to a tank, even if they didn't arm and don't explode you will still kill the tank.

Which, tbh, is horse shit. The range is way too big and allows ridiculous tank kills without lasers.