Pls ban fallujah

[Smiley1967]

Just a personal appeal pls just ban fallujah for a month or something like this from pr so that all the servers can finally seed with another map.

[Mats391]

Will make sure we break it somehow in next version. Maybe gonna break whole INS mode while I am at it.

[AlonTavor]

Will make sure we break it somehow in next version. Maybe gonna break whole INS mode while I am at it.

Like that time you made the initial caches spawn 5 minutes late. That was great.

[Suchar]

Just a personal appeal pls just ban fallujah for a month or something like this from pr so that all the servers can finally seed with another map.

Good idea.
If you wanna seed server use skirmish or just another 1km map like f.e. Mestia.

[viirusiiseli]

Re-add those fires and smoke effects that were removed in 0.9 in order to increase performance. I'm sure if you get creative you can make the map have 5-18 FPS again like it used to. That ought to bring its popularity down.

Spoiler for nostalgia feels:

Only vets remember where INS main used to be

[Smiley1967]

Good idea.
If you wanna seed server use skirmish or just another 1km map like f.e. Mestia.

Believe me dude I tried it, the problem is:
We running Falluja west and the server getting filled than the round is over and the next map starts (you can fill in any map that comes in your mind)
Than a other server starts seeding with falluja and the people are leaving again and the server which runs falluja getting filled.
You can repeat that with every server.

Dont get me wrong Falluja is a great map but to play it 4-5 times a day for hours is not what I would call fun.^^

[Jacksonez__]

Falluja is like de_dust2 of CS:GO - everyone pretty much hates it but still plays it

[Mr.VdHeide]

Falluja is like de_dust2 of CS:GO - everyone pretty much hates it but still plays it

Yep. Overplayed as fuck.



D.J.

[Vista]

Its the best seeding map, and as long as it stays like that, it will stay overplayed

[JohnF0X]

Falluja is like de_dust2 of CS:GO - everyone pretty much hates it but still plays it

na that would be Muttrah not Fallujah

[fecht_niko]

Will make sure we break it somehow in next version. Maybe gonna break whole INS mode while I am at it.

Just make all weapons 1-shot against no bodyarmor again like you did in 1.2

[Murphy]

Oh I missed those days of going 21-0 as a medic with an ACOG on Ramial.

I think part of the problem is maps with assets are unappealing at lower numbers, so even maps like Muttrah STD might not fill a server as well as something focused mostly on INF fighting. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario imho. If you want to break the mold you risk not seeding, but everyone who has played for years knows the back alleys of Fallujah better than their own towns. Seeding on skirmish maps is the obvious choice, I really love Kokan skirmish for filling a server. A lot of these skirmish maps are perfect for a dozen or so people to mess around with, sometimes you have great rounds of squad vs squad action.


“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

[AlonTavor]

I think part of the problem is maps with assets are unappealing at lower numbers, so even maps like Muttrah STD might not fill a server as well as something focused mostly on INF fighting.

That's definitely not the problem. I've tried countless times to seed with Mestia when server had 40 players. People just leave.
Insurgency just attracts the big casual crowd.

[mectus11]

Used to be a while ago when servers seeded with skirmish layers, those were fun. It's a shame nobody is trying to do that anymore since apparently INS gamemode attracts "arabs and americans" to seed.

[JohnF0X]

I remember the times when some servers were seeding with full on AAS maps, bigger thne 1KM and with heavy assets and they managed to fill up in half an hour from 0 to 64/0 to 100

and Skirmish seeding does work to a certain degree, you can only atract so many people with skirmish and if you as an admin fail to set a bigger map, either most of the people on the server will go AFK or run away looking for a server that switches to a biger map, at the same time if the next map is to big, example Muttrah Std and your asset rule is at 40 but you only have 30 palyers on the server, its done for cus the players want instand action and preferably with a Tank or APC or CAS cus "Infantry is boring"

thats why Ins and especialy Fallujah is seeding so well, its not to big it has some assets for the ones who want it and its not to serious of a gamemode too, you can run around doing BS and have fun with it where as with muttrah ive seen it a couple of times people were just sitting on their objectives waiting for more players and after half an hour the server is dead, if it even takes that long

times have changed, and not to the better realy

[Suchar]

Yesterday evening there were full Divsul, RU and PRTA MC servers.
There were also A94, PRTA LO and DPRC, all 3 with ~30 players.
We play together as a clan. We had to join A94, PRTA LO or DPRC. All 3 servers ran Fallujah. We joined DPRC first and we played fallujah around 40 min. DPRC crashed 2 times. Then we joined A94 and we had to play fallujah again, for around 45 min.
I hate this map, cuz it is overplayed so much and Im not alone in this feeling. Only yesterday we wasted 2 hours for playing Fallujah cuz admins can't simply set skirmish or another 1 km map.
Its really sad that we have 7 1km map (except Fallujah) and 50 map with skirmish mode but we have to play fallujah 24/7. I can't understand it.

[DogACTUAL]

What about vehicle warfare? That game mode could use some more love from the admins.
Idk if it would be reliable for seeding though.

[CAS_ual_TY]

My favourite copy pasta

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On a serious note: Thats not how seeding works anymore. You now try to get as many players as possible on fallujah, and hope for all arabs to join, because they love fallujah, more than any populated server. The =KW=, _AM_SY_ (or anything with SY), =AW= and other arab clan tags always join fallujah. Servers have seeded up on their own (from 0 players) just because fallujah was running and some arabs joined it.

And thats how you seed nowadays. And thats why fallujah is the only map worth seeding on right now. You can even outseed a server with 50 players if you are on fallujah and the other is not.

If this wouldnt be the case, and everyone joins because of they like a specific server (ofc there are people like that, but very rarely at the morning or seeding time) then PRTA would be able to seed perfectly fine on any map. But as all servers, they are running fallujah only because thats the only way to seed right now.

Or: As long as there are more people in the morning who like fallujah (arabs) than people who dont, you will get fallujah.

99% of the players are complaining about servers and Fallujah, yet only 1% of those actually seed something else (if they seed at all!).

Its too late in the evening, if you want change, do it in the early morning times.

[Vista]

Seeding is dirty buisness. As long as it seeds, fallujah is (sadly) justified.

[RENEGADO]

I'm doing a remake of Fallujah, it's gonna feature 20 new statics, new walls and fences...
Still studying a 2km version, i will make a thread in the forums very soon.