am i the only one?

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ToXiCGrAvE
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am i the only one?

Post by ToXiCGrAvE »

am i the only one who thinks the jet's countermeasures are next to non-existing?

lock = dead, period, flares or not

The only way flares work right now is if you flare before you get locked

am i the only one who feels this way?
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Re: am i the only one?

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ToXiCGrAvE wrote:The only way flares work right now is if you flare before you get locked
Wow, it's almost like monitoring your surroundings and being prepared is important or something.
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CAS_ual_TY
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get a flare between you and the missile, keep distance to the flare (54m+ if Im not wrong)

=> AA players will complain more about AA being underpowered, than you complaining about it being overpowered
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ToXiCGrAvE
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the problem is, there is no chance of survival. there is no more dogfight or manual bomb run. there is no more escaping in full burner, there is nothing but missiles exploding everywhere. When u get locked, ur dead, end of story. So right now, the game is to spot the enemy jet before he spots you.
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ToXiCGrAvE wrote:When u get locked, ur dead, end of story. So right now, the game is to spot the enemy jet before he spots you.
Oh I didn't know your opinion was final, maybe it's because you flare too early and/or you're just shit at CAS?

But hey you're right anyway.
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ToXiCGrAvE
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im trying to say, when the enemy see you before you see him, and he fires a long range missile, you are dead, no matter the skills. I know its easy and very popular to tell a cas player 'you are shit'. But please, try it yourself, and have the balls to record it and post it here in this forum.

Exactly, you dont

So until that time, please try to contribute
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ToXiCGrAvE wrote:the problem is, there is no chance of survival. there is no more dogfight or manual bomb run. there is no more escaping in full burner, there is nothing but missiles exploding everywhere. When u get locked, ur dead, end of story. So right now, the game is to spot the enemy jet before he spots you.


Maybe learn to fly?
ToXiCGrAvE
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yes exactly, this is what i mean. Thanks for recording this. As u can see the first time it kills while in a turn. the second time it hits flares which are updated now, see virus his video with hilarious results. 3rd time is just like its intended to be. It hits while i fly just in a straight line
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ToXiCGrAvE wrote:yes exactly, this is what i mean. Thanks for recording this. As u can see the first time it kills while in a turn. the second time it hits flares which are updated now, see virus his video with hilarious results. 3rd time is just like its intended to be. It hits while i fly just in a straight line
This was recorded the day of the patch, on HOG.
ToXiCGrAvE
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FFG wrote:

Maybe learn to fly?
FFG wrote:This was recorded the day of the patch, on HOG.
I have the great feeling the patches which bring drama everytime for jets and helicopters with updates is not going away. it will only increase to make cas players go away from the stage. Like squad is never gonna introduce jets and stuff.

to make things clear, im talking about this kind of shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sQtUVSiM9E
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ToXiCGrAvE wrote:I have the great feeling the patches which bring drama everytime for jets and helicopters with updates is not going away. it will only increase to make cas players go away from the stage. Like squad is never gonna introduce jets and stuff.

to make things clear, im talking about this kind of shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sQtUVSiM9E
54m

Thats the spash radius (once again: If Im not wrong)

Read the thread this was posted in
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Re: am i the only one?

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I'm being from opposite side and saying that AA missing cas all the time. Prove me wrong, or i am being only one? :p
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ToXiCGrAvE
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CAS_ual_TY wrote:54m

Thats the spash radius (once again: If Im not wrong)

Read the thread this was posted in
Let's at least agree this is too much of the good. If this is happening with flares, flares would not have designed this way.

plz compare the real deal with the ingame variant and plz agree with me somewhere



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Post by Geronimo »

[R-DEV]rPoXoTauJIo wrote:I'm being from opposite side and saying that AA missing cas all the time. Prove me wrong, or i am being only one? :p
Jets are balanced. That's why we played so many jet maps in the PRT.
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Re: am i the only one?

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ToXiCGrAvE wrote:the problem is, there is no chance of survival. there is no more dogfight or manual bomb run. there is no more escaping in full burner, there is nothing but missiles exploding everywhere. When u get locked, ur dead, end of story. So right now, the game is to spot the enemy jet before he spots you.
The problem is there's no chance of survival. Running around a corner blindly as infantry, only to get blasted in the face. There is no more dolphindiving, bunny hopping, there is nothing but bullets in your face.

The game is mostly always about whoever sees who first wins, that's why being aware of your surroundings and listening to information is key. If this game was a 50/50% no matter who saw who first, then what's the point in intel anyway? If you could just hit X the moment you get locked, why would I ever use missiles? I'd just sneak up and gun you down in one 0.3s burst, you'll still have no chance of survival. In this case there is 0% chance of survival, you can't flare to survive bullets.

If you want to come in for manual bombing, drop flares fare before entering visual range and in 9/10 cases the people on ground will be whining that AA is fucking useless.
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Geronimo wrote:Jets are balanced. That's why we played so many jet maps in the PRT.
If the PRT is what decides balanced then the only thing balanced in the entire game is Saaremaa inf. :D
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