Request for screenshot showing the old Allah Cola bottles in the cache

[Sam Harris]

Hi.

As some of you may remember, in the original PR, there used to be molotov cocktails visible in the cache, with the words "Allah Cola" on them.

A thread about it can be seen here:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72852

I thought it was a nice entertaining touch, and I was very sad to see it go. I used to have a screenshot showing the bottles, but I lost it due to a hard drive failing.

If someone has a screenshot they could share with me, that would be great.

The freedom to satirise religion is something that the West always valued and protected. It is no trivial matter either. Unless people are willing to stand up for such freedoms of expression, bullies and terrorists will continue to erode it.

As many of you will know, on 7 January 2015 at about 11:30 a.m. local time, two French Muslim brothers, Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, forced their way into the offices of the French satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris. Armed with rifles and other weapons, they killed 12 people and injured 11 others. This was over the satirical presentation of their god in a magazine.

The families and friends of those murdered Charlie Hebdo staff are counting on the rest of us never to surrender to religious fanaticism, which loves to take offence, and which loves to tell others what is and is not acceptable.

Regards,

Sam

[Rhino]

The Molotov wasn't removed from PR because of a very small amount of people finding it offensive (its translation is just "God Cola" which only the most uptight person ever would find offensive), we also would have just retextured it if it was an issue. It was removed simply because the burning code of the Molotov was super buggy and didn't work well.

As for a screenshot, here is it is in BFMeshView:

[Sam Harris]

Hi. Thank you very much indeed for your helpful and informative reply. I have saved the picture, and I am extremely grateful to you for providing me with it for reference.

Do you think an attempt might be made at some point to re-code the Molotov burning code in a bug-free reincarnation? Playing Karkand in BF2, I notice there is a burning car near the Hotel flag which does damage when you go near it. I suppose it's a question of using that bit of code in just the right way so that it gets switched on and off in the right place at the right time. Of course I am sure that doesn't make it an easy task, but, it would be fantastic if it could be brought back to the game.

Cheers & beers!

SH

[Rhino]

No worries

Do you think an attempt might be made at some point to re-code the Molotov burning code in a bug-free reincarnation? Playing Karkand in BF2, I notice there is a burning car near the Hotel flag which does damage when you go near it. I suppose it's a question of using that bit of code in just the right way so that it gets switched on and off in the right place at the right time. Of course I am sure that doesn't make it an easy task, but, it would be fantastic if it could be brought back to the game.

Ye that is pretty much how it was coded before, in technical terms it uses a "supply object" that causes damage (in the exact same way the burning fire on a static car damages a player who gets close), that is attached to the projectile which in turn sticks to whatever it impacts, so if it is thrown against an APC then the APC would drive around on fire like in r/l.

This is only from memory and it was some time ago but the big bugs were that it would burn people through walls, so you could chuck the Molotov against the outside wall of a house, and burn the people inside on the other side of a 50cm wall with no windows to death. On top of that, and the biggest issue that I recall is that often the "supply object" (the fire) wouldn't expire with the projectile, even thou the fire effect etc had, and people would walk into an area where the Molotov had been thrown earlier in the game and find themselves burning to death for no reason or any visual queue other than they would be taking damage from an invisible force.

It very well might be possible to now code it in a better way but no one has looked into it.

[Sam Harris]

Thank you very much for that in-depth and interesting explanation. I hope that one day it will return, and that the issues you mentioned can be somehow resolved.

[dcm]

Allah-Cola the true taste of jihad

Warning: May contain trace amounts of camel, goat, and/or sheep urine.
In some regions feces may be used as coloring agent.

[sweedensniiperr]

This is only from memory and it was some time ago but the big bugs were that it would burn people through walls, so you could chuck the Molotov against the outside wall of a house, and burn the people inside on the other side of a 50cm wall with no windows to death. ...people would walk into an area where the Molotov had been thrown earlier in the game and find themselves burning to death for no reason or any visual queue other than they would be taking damage from an invisible force.

You gotta admit though, it led to some fun moments every now and then.

[Rhino]

You gotta admit though, it led to some fun moments every now and then.

Oh ye for sure, seeing the crew of a Warrior panic on Al Basrah after you threw one that smashed on the side of their APC trying to drive away from the flames and finding that they followed them wherever they went was hilarious!

[WingWalker]

Oh ye for sure, seeing the crew of a Warrior panic on Al Basrah after you threw one that smashed on the side of their APC trying to drive away from the flames and finding that they followed them wherever they went was hilarious!

I almost forgot about all that.