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I have had a small issue (not worthy of the suggestion section) when jumping out of a boat into water at low speed and the accumulated damage of the water viciously tearing the flesh from my bones and slamming me like concrete at 10km/h being enough to set me off coughing and dying...

Water hurts. If you've ever left your house you would know that. I meen if it is in a glass it's okay, but outside of that glass its rock solid.

At 6mph?

Yeah that's one thing where the high speed bailout doesn't work.. I mean if you jump out of a boat when it's a moving, yeah your going to get stung or might hurt a little bit but your not going to bleed to death.

I have,IRL, jumped from boats doing 20mph + and it didn't nearly kill me.
I'm not saying it was a smart thing to do but you don't get hurt in any real sense.

lol if they were that dangerous i wouldn't own a rib. 60 knots full on, and ive fell out of it, it stings but doesent kill, maybe bruises sometimes if you slap the water

hmm i doubt there is a way to differentiate water vs. concrete, but we will see what we can do. I mean people can get thrown out of a boat going liek 40 mph and it's only going to bruise them.

Most wear a Type III PFD or Impact Vest, as used on JetSki's so when you leave your vessel (unintentionally) you don't hurt yourself. Most of these vests have neck support also, because breaking your neck would definitely ruin the day.

yea, and i thought i saw some PFDs in the RIB bow too!

You guys obviously dont know anything about the boats used by the military in PR. They dont use gas, they use sulfuric acid. It slowly melts your skin and makes you cough etc. To avoid these side effects, do not depart from the boat if it is moving as the wake is highly acidic and will kill you.

Fenix16 wrote:You guys obviously dont know anything about the boats used by the military in PR. They dont use gas, they use sulfuric acid. It slowly melts your skin and makes you cough etc. To avoid these side effects, do not depart from the boat if it is moving as the wake is highly acidic and will kill you.

Sounds more like a candidate for lysergic acid...

I was just pointing out a problem with the moving vehicle damage thingy and I
understand there may be no way to differentiate within the BF2 engine...

its a shame really, as if it could work people could bail from low flying choppers over the sea

On a side note... I jumped off the fork lift too soon.. when it was going about 5 mph.. and I too faced the wrath of the slow moving vehicle.... Coughing and blurred vision... luckily i was a medic.

That doesn't make much sense though. The engine can differentiate the damage from water to concrete when your falling (i.e. you jump from crane on to ground = death, on to water = damage but life) why shouldn't it be able to with the vehicles, or is it all speed based, so its the speed of the vehicle that matters and nothing else?

Okay to turn this thread into something more productive. I think swimming should be re-thought.

There should be NO sprint-swim. There is no FEASIBLE way to do this with a rifle.

Normal swimming speed should also be greatly reduced. Try putting on 50lbs of gear, boots, uniform, AND an assault rifle. Now try swimming. Come back to me and tell me the results

Bottomline is: Swimming in a combat zone is one of the most unplesant things you would ever go through. It should be thought of as a 'last resort' type thing. Right now its more like 'no big thang' to swim a river, when it should be thought of as a more major obstacle.

'[R-DEV wrote:fuzzhead']Bottomline is: Swimming in a combat zone is one of the most unplesant things you would ever go through. It should be thought of as a 'last resort' type thing. Right now its more like 'no big thang' to swim a river, when it should be thought of as a more major obstacle.

I completely agree. For example, atm defending bridge/river crossings (on maps that have them) is rendered completely undecisive (which should not be the case in reality) as the enemey always has the quick option of a quick 20-30 second swim across somewhere else to setup a quick flank on defending forces (I admit I am guilty of this). I would not think that to be a very regular manoevre for modern armies to take when they are battling it out for a river crossing? Okay, fully geared up? No biggy, let's not waste time trying to take this bridge back, let's just swim through the river somewhere else and think nothing of it!

I hope that in a future release it will be possible that anyone who swims for a longer duration of time (or after x meters) simply gets a longer blur effect and then drowns.

I think that with all those weapons, ammo, BDU you will swim like a rock.

I'm and huge wakeboarder... so I know a thing or two about water. 18 mph hurts! but 6 mph would silently knock the wind out of you. It all depends on how you land in the water. Tearing flesh off the bone... lord! I hope I never have to experience that... haha!

I've been flipped out of inner tubes and slammed into the water when attempting to water ski, and I can say that it hurts, but you wouldn't die. Plus I was just wearing a bathing suit, so bare skin hitting water will always hurt, but if you are wearing clothing, then it lessens the impact. Navy Seals will jump from a moving helicopter into the water, and they don't die. So I don't think you should take much damage, maybe a little bit to simulate the stinging or bruising. Also, if you are going to reduce the swimming ability, then Special Forces class should be able to swim longer, or better, or something like that. After all, they are Special.