More Planes in PR

Su34 · Post by **Su34** » 2007-03-02 14:14

Hi
I play the mod now for a few days and find that its one of the greatest mods for Bf2. Especially the teamwork! Its much better than in Vanilla or other mods.

But what i miss are the planes. Its my favorite vehicle and i could it fly one once on Gulf of Oman and loved it right away! But in other maps, apart form one other than Gulf, there are no planes although they would be large enugh for planes.
So are you planing to add mor planes in a futur releas?
Greets
Su

Master Shake · Post by **Master Shake** » 2007-03-02 14:22

Su34 wrote:Hi
I play the mod now for a few days and find that its one of the greatest mods for Bf2. Especially the teamwork! Its much better than in Vanilla or other mods.

But what i miss are the planes. Its my favorite vehicle and i could it fly one once on Gulf of Oman and loved it right away! But in other maps, apart form one other than Gulf, there are no planes although they would be large enugh for planes.
So are you planing to add mor planes in a futur releas?
Greets
Su

Im sure as the mod progresses and they dial in the Soflam there will be larger maps that planes can strut there stuff in, Im asuming thats what there waiting for? Right now most of the maps are not really suited for planes.....

Darkpowder · Post by **Darkpowder** » 2007-03-02 15:01

Welcome to the forums, i'm sure the coders would be happy to receive your
3D models of planes once you design them

Do some thinking about the factions we have in the game, and research the planes that the RL armies use that we dont see and come up with some suggestions, on what would usually be groundattack or superiority planes.

Also, go to Search, select advanced search and put in aircraft searching in the suggestions forums, you might get some ideas, and find a thread to contribute to.

Simio1337 · Post by **Simio1337** » 2007-03-02 15:03

Sure why not.

DJJ-Terror · Post by **DJJ-Terror** » 2007-03-02 15:03

curent BF map sizes are up to 2km.
PR has in works couple maps up to 4km where air power will be more noticable.

Stay tuned...

Su34 · Post by **Su34** » 2007-03-02 15:15

I will. Thats sure

And i think u are right: larger maps are more suitable for the jets.
Now thats a good piece of news when ther will be more planes.

Guerra · Post by **Guerra** » 2007-03-02 16:26

Personally, I want more two seater planes.

They should fix up the F15, Sukoy, etc so that you can lazer designate a target, and then have the co pilot firing the maverick missiles simply lock onto that lazer signature and blow it up.

I really miss having a co pilot. I hate solo jets as they do not promote teamwork.

Su34 · Post by **Su34** » 2007-03-02 18:33

Yes u are right but adding such planes means also more vehicles because when there are one tank and a few cheeps u wont have much to shoot as co-pilot

But we will see what about more vehicles to shoot in a future release.

pvt.Taylor · Post by **pvt.Taylor** » 2007-03-03 00:03

I, too, would like to see more aircraft, mainly form the SU type. But I can wait.

Guerra · Post by **Guerra** » 2007-03-03 01:43

To add, I really badly want to see some heavy heavy bombers. I'm talking B52.

Some big cargo planes that can act as mobile spawn points, and soldiers can parachute down from them. (However it should be made that once you spawn on the mobile plane, you automatically parachute down, no more bullcrap where you drop 5 feet from the ground then pull the parachute without injury.

Post by **CodeRedFox** » 2007-03-03 02:03

While I think it would be FUN, added the C130 back in would be a pain...Or might not be. In DC it was allot of fun. When you have a pilot and a bomber talking it was quite deadly. With VOIP it could work.

Eagle · Post by **Eagle** » 2007-03-03 03:30

Guerra wrote:They should fix up the F15, Sukoy, etc so that you can lazer designate a target, and then have the co pilot firing the maverick missiles simply lock onto that lazer signature and blow it up.

I really miss having a co pilot. I hate solo jets as they do not promote teamwork.

I agree in full. One seater planes should only be as air-superiority fighters, not makeshift bombers. Two seater planes would be infinitely beneficial if a spec-ops could laser designate with his SOFLAM. The pilot would see the designation on his HUD, and the co-pilot would have missiles of some sort (Mavericks were mentioned) so that he could conduct strategic, pinpoint strikes.

In addition to this, perhaps we should get rid of dumb-fire bombs. They're not used today and don't promote teamwork at all, especially in one-seater planes.

Guerra · Post by **Guerra** » 2007-03-04 03:10

Actually they still use dumb bombs. However, the bombs used in BF2 look more like Giant Anchors than bombs.

But yeah, they need more two seaters. A one seater bomber is just silly.

I really miss having a co pilot with me.

lion551 · Post by **lion551** » 2007-03-04 07:00

coderedfox wrote:While I think it would be FUN, added the C130 back in would be a pain...Or might not be. In DC it was allot of fun. When you have a pilot and a bomber talking it was quite deadly. With VOIP it could work.

No its too bulky would lag prob and make game unstable and along with that would just be corny

blimp · Post by **blimp** » 2007-03-04 09:43

planes....
first, i cant fly at all
second, i hate being bombed as infantry by a fighter plane.
however these r only personal opinions so they dont count for much, especially since i am not very good at PR.

ops:

a fighter aircraft (not the A10) in a hostile environment probably flies fairly fast, however since i don't know too much about aircraft, i have in the example below used the speed of 1000 km/h, i'm afraid u will have to convert that urself to miles/h or perhaps knots/h.

this means that to fly 1 km, it would take 1/1000 of an hour.
(1/1000)*60*60 seconds, thats 3.6 sec. to fly 2km would take 7.2 sec. to fly the diagonal on the 2*2 km map would take 10 sec.

i dont think fighter aircrafts can be implemented in a realistic way due to this. since the map is not big enough for the airplane to do anything else but fly in circles. I know the situation is different for C130 or perhaps the B52.
i know that it was mentioned that future maps would be 4*4 but then again fighter aircraft can fly (theoretically) double the speed too, giving the same result.

if i am wrong somewhere, i do apologise. i also apologise that i sound negative.

as always, a wonderful mod, thk u!

Su34 · Post by **Su34** » 2007-03-04 11:44

Now.....I like bombing infantry like u

But u are right: The speed is always a bit unrealistic but Bf or a Bf mod without planes?? I think that would not be fun for pilots like me. But imo the problem is managed well wiht maps for infantry-battle and vehicle-battle so u can choose.

DJJ-Terror · Post by **DJJ-Terror** » 2007-03-04 14:10

blimp wrote:planes....

i dont think fighter aircrafts can be implemented in a realistic way due to this. since the map is not big enough for the airplane to do anything else but fly in circles.

So what are you saying, shud we remove planes from Al Basrah?

DirtyHarry88 · Post by **DirtyHarry88** » 2007-03-04 14:39

'[R-CON wrote:DJJ-Terror']So what are you saying, shud we remove planes from Al Basrah?

Is he not meaning fighters?

$kelet0r · Post by **$kelet0r** » 2007-03-04 17:50

the only planes in PRM should be subsonic close air support bombers (Fantan Q5, A10, Harrier, Su25) because of their c400mph speed, ground-support purpose and the size of the maps.

Quality over quantity should be the ultimate goal and making the CAS aircraft excellent, rather than have loads of adequete supersonic fighters and bombers buzzing overhead in a frankly tiny 4-8km box, imo is the only worthwhile option.