Squad Leaders - ability to build certain structures ...

[=UKHC=Neoteknix]

I was Playing a really Good round as Squad leader on the River Qwai last night with a Brilliant, very flexible and reliable and very Communicative Squad, including a player called "CounterZero" ( i think it was that ) who stuck by my side through some hefty gun Battles with Armour and Troops.

after a couple of Situations its led me to think Why should the Commander be the only one to be able to set up Sand bags and barbed wire ...

I think Squad Leaders Should have the ability to Place these Assets with the Aid of a Supply Drop from the Commander, i think the Tactical improvement this Would create would be great - eg:

Commander " Alpha Squad, your Going over to Defence Here, Supply Drop at your Co-ordinate, Dig in Lads "

Alpha Squad Leader " Roger that " *squad leader proceeds to place Tactically placed sandbags and Barbed wire with Squads help*

hehe

also, an idea mentioned before about MG Emplacements - Squads would be able to build one, but only if a Support Troop is in the Squad.

what do you think of this idea ? and sorry if its been mentioned before, i searched - but couldnt find anything.

Nick

[Aljen]

I would really like to see it in game.

[bullock]

good idear would like to see this implemented.

[Swe_Olsson]

the supply drops are not accurate ^^ plus, the squad leader's role would be widely different from the commander, rather see an improvment on Heavy Support Vehicles

[=UKHC=Neoteknix]

the supply drops are not accurate ^^ plus, the squad leader's role would be widely different from the commander, rather see an improvment on Heavy Support Vehicles

I think that would be a good idea, But some Tard always steals your vehicle when you need it ... hence why i thought a static supply drop would be best.

Maybe make it so commanders can "Control" Supply drops to a certain Degree ?

Or How About ........................................ Supply Drops Attached to the Little Birds ?

If you remember BF1942, the helicopters could Pick up supplies - and even vehicles - if this could be possible then the Littlebirds would have an extra part to play in the game, a stockpile of Supply Crates at each teams main flag would be a good one !!

what do you reckon ? is it possible ?

[Aljen]

AFAIK (mostly from this forum threads) it is impossible in BF2 engine

[=UKHC=Neoteknix]

AFAIK (mostly from this forum threads) it is impossible in BF2 engine

do you mean not possible for airlifting ?

if so.

DAMN THOSE EA INFIDELS !!!!!!!!

can you Devs make a PR_DEVS VS EA_DEVS Map ?

I'd like to RPG the lot of them .........

[CadetFox]

Wow, I'd LOVE to see this in the game this is a better concept than the commander's assets because sometimes the team does not even build the commander's thingys. So having a squad do it would be more efficient.

[Swe_Olsson]

the vehicle could be requested by squad leaders, 1 per squad.. officer kit needed to request a M1123 or simthing similar, nothing armed, just like a fast moving cargo transporter.. also maybe it could be restricted, like 4 barb wires and/or half a sand bunker

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

or....... you could leave it keyed to the supply crate and placement and luck will play a large factor in how well your defense is set up.

[Swe_Olsson]

that could work aswell, i suppose ^^

[BetterDeadThanRed]

or....... you could leave it keyed to the supply crate and placement and luck will play a large factor in how well your defense is set up.

Awesome idea. Replace support truck of commander with supply crates for squad leader and allow them to set up basic sandbag walls and concertina wire. If you wanted to make it slightly more powerful of an asset for squad leaders, add static .50 MGs or GPMGs.

Note: I don't mean to eliminate the supply truck. The commander would still use his supply truck but the squad leaders would use supply crates instead.

[=UKHC=Neoteknix]

the vehicle could be requested by squad leaders, 1 per squad.. officer kit needed to request a M1123 or simthing similar, nothing armed, just like a fast moving cargo transporter.. also maybe it could be restricted, like 4 barb wires and/or half a sand bunker

yeah i like that, the Squad Leader would definitely have to be an Officer, and the structures they could build would have to be limited ( or people would just go bonkers with them )

Keep firebases and heavey emplacements the commanders Duties, I just feel a couple of well placed sandbags by a competent Squad Leader could be the difference between life and death for his Squad mates

with the ability to build MG Emplacements too - This Would ROCK

[=UKHC=Neoteknix]

or....... you could leave it keyed to the supply crate and placement and luck will play a large factor in how well your defense is set up.

i like that idea alot, Luck is a big part of the game anyway and i think supply drops in real life couldnt land on a target the size of a drawing pin

i thought from the start it would work better with a Static rather than a Vehicle - otherwise Squads could just dump sandbags / wire wherever they wanted all the time then - i mainly thought of this idea for defence, after holding a Flag for some time last night, so i honestly think that something that couldnt move would suit much better.

( obviously if the Supply Truck Came near then they could build near that too )

Maybe if this was implemented, make the Structure building area 25 - 30 Meters From the Supply Crate ?

[=UKHC=Neoteknix]

Awesome idea. Replace support truck of commander with supply crates for squad leader and allow them to set up basic sandbag walls and concertina wire. If you wanted to make it slightly more powerful of an asset for squad leaders, add static .50 MGs.

I dont think it should replace, the Supply Truck is a Very Cool addition Imho !

But With added "Supply Lines" for Squad leaders, Battles would be much more tactical, Especially if a couple of Squads joined forces

[AfterDune]

I like the idea of building sandbags. Not a big fan of letting them build razor wire too. The commander-part has to be unique and stay attractive, don't think letting SL's build more stuff (than sandbags alone) adds to it (to the commander, that is).

[BetterDeadThanRed]

I dont think it should replace, the Supply Truck is a Very Cool addition Imho !

But With added "Supply Lines" for Squad leaders, Battles would be much more tactical, Especially if a couple of Squads joined forces

I guess I worded that poorly. I meant that the commander would use the supply truck but the squad leader would use the supply crate.

[=UKHC=Neoteknix]

I like the idea of building sandbags. Not a big fan of letting them build razor wire too. The commander-part has to be unique and stay attractive, don't think letting SL's build more stuff (than sandbags alone) adds to it (to the commander, that is).

I See your Point, maybe just sandbags and Mg.50 nests if this is ever added to the game

[=UKHC=Neoteknix]

I guess I worded that poorly. I meant that the commander would use the supply truck but the squad leader would use the supply crate.

Indeed - Supply Truck + Crates = Supply Lines.

Each Army Could Build out and Conquer the flags then, in most Real life wars there are Front lines, and i think with a bit more Co-ordination and building from squad leaders the shootouts would be fab

[jackal22]

i would rather code it so that:

SL requests structure from comander

Comander grants/denies structure

SL then has the temporary ability to build the granted structure

this would:

1. make the commander important,
2. stop SLs going building happy
3. give squads the support they need not what a comander deems in nessecary (sometimes the comander can get it quite wrong when they are multi tasking too much), because at the end of the day its the people at the frontline in the squads that know just where they need sandbags, or a stationary mg.