LZ IS HOT! Heli manners as a SL!

CAS_117 · Post by **CAS_117** » 2007-07-23 09:50

If you need a ride for your own safety please don't do the following:

1. Ask for an extraction while taking heavy fire from anything > or = to a .50 cal.

2. Designate an LZ with formidable terrain. (Steep hills, trees, meteor showers, or ailien invasions.)

3. Don't keep the chopper waiting, if not for general safety, then for courtesy (choppers are a limited resouce and need to be managed). Don't ask for an LZ when the squad leader is not present as all we can see is the big fat "3" on our screen. Its too hard to locate squad members behind fences and other obstacles. We'd rather be thinking about that guy with the RPG and MiG-29 that needs evading.

4. Don't fire at the chopper under any circumstances, as we lack any sort of FLIR to find out where its coming form, and can't figure out if its hostile. This can cause TKing from edgy door gunners and missed LZs. If you need a ride just type. This should help -> http://www.typingtutor.org/

5. Flying is hard at the best of times. Good helicopter pilots will practice flying on empty servers, doing things like fantailing (very hard in blackhawks), familliarization with terrain, slow/ fast gunship orbiting, low altitude insertion/ exfiltration, memorizing AA positions, AA break evasion, and general handling. This takes hours upon hours of practice. But even the best pilots will crash due to lag, miscommunication, pilot error, ambush, or just battle damage. If your are shot down, don't start mouthing off, despite the pilot probably deserving it, just laugh it off and take the boat, or just wait for a new chopper. If flying were easy, I probably wouldn't have to practice. Believe me, nothing is worse than grumbling pasengers. And if you find yourself ready to flame, just remember, we have parachutes, you don't...

6. Don't ask for an LZ that is obviously hot. If west beach just fell, and you are dropped behind a wall as cover, don't complain about the extra 100m you need to walk. Your chances survival get exponentially greater when you are out of sight. Instead, just be glad you and your teammate are alive and that you are there in one peice. Choppers are just as vulnerable as troops, except they can't take cover once the shooting has started.

7. Don't just sit in the chopper. Once you're in, look at your map and ask your squad where you should land. Ask the commander to verify with the pilots the best area the guarantee your survival. Look at the dead icons on the map (Always motionless and pointing North). Thats a good indicator of where to go. TYPE YOUR DESTINATION. IF YOU WANT TO DOUBLE YOUR CHANCES OF SURVIVAL, TYPE AN ALTERNATE LOCATION IN CASE NUMBER ONE'S HOT. Everything is speed, indecision gets choppers killed. So if the pilot has a plan in his mind its easy to fly it. But improvising in the air is usually fatal. Understand that pilots will generally not refuse you a ride anywhere, as that is their only purpose in many cases. So they will probably go to wherever you requested. If you are staying in the chopper, tell the pilot so you don't get blown up from hovering in one place too long.

Zybon · Post by **Zybon** » 2007-07-23 10:11

Oooo, that's funny

p.s. nice rocket

[SAF]stal20048 · Post by **[SAF]stal20048** » 2007-07-23 10:11

hear hear, the amount of times 'extractionees' ask for pickups when AAA or a mig or a hmg is overlooking is phenomenal.

very nice guide, i recommend all should read this.

i also get pissed off with whiney passengers...

Ki|rBe3 · Post by **Ki|rBe3** » 2007-07-23 10:17

Good Guide. All squad leaders should read this.

Post by **epoch** » 2007-07-23 10:30

Sticky !

Better still - stick it in the tactics forum !!

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-07-23 10:59

Nice post. TO the right of west beach is a large open area -- two guesses as to what that's for!

eddie · Post by **eddie** » 2007-07-23 11:16

To give my point of view as (often) a Merlin pilot in PR, if I get fired on, whether it be friendly or enemy I fly away from it. Last time I checked, soldiers didn't fire their SA80s at a chopper for a lift.

Gaz · Post by **Gaz** » 2007-07-23 11:24

Nice guide! Geared towards SLs and squad members, so moved to the SL Tactics forum.

[SAF]stal20048 · Post by **[SAF]stal20048** » 2007-07-23 11:31

even if they do i still fly away, if their gonna demand a flight by shooting at you they really dont deserve the flight

daranz · Post by **daranz** » 2007-07-23 12:06

Seems like teamchat is the default way of asking for a ride... Instead of typing, you can always try coordinating through the commander, though. Many of them won't help you, but some will, and if they do, it makes it easier for the pilot. So, feel free to try to ask your commander to direct the chopper to you, they might actually help (If it's me, I most likely will).

Kruder · Post by **Kruder** » 2007-07-23 12:10

caboose wrote:

5. Flying is hard at the best of times. Good helicopter pilots will practice flying on empty servers, doing things like fantailing (very hard in blackhawks), familliarization with terrain, slow/ fast gunship orbiting, low altitude insertion/ exfiltration, memorizing AA positions, AA break evasion, and general handling. This takes hours upon hours of practice. But even the best pilots will crash due to lag, miscommunication, pilot error, ambush, or just battle damage. If your are shot down, don't start mouthing off, despite the pilot probably deserving it, just laugh it off and take the boat, or just wait for a new chopper. If flying were easy, I probably wouldn't have to practice. Believe me, nothing is worse than grumbling pasengers. And if you find yourself ready to flame, just remember, we have parachutes, you don't...

SO true
I must also add if you are manning minigun stop shooting with it for no reason,it is really annoying...

106th SOAR pliot · Post by **106th SOAR pliot** » 2007-07-23 18:54

lol whats that movie called *Black hawk Down* yeah thats it...no we have a BHD lol

Spaz · Post by **Spaz** » 2007-07-23 19:28

hahahhahhahah "Hey, I just rememberd what that movie was called"

Good guide

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2007-07-23 20:22

2 more points: Under no circumstances fire any of the onboard guns "for fun". Actually, just don't fire while you're onboard a chopter, unless you're doing Airborne Tankbusting, and the pilot knows this. It is really hard to hit anything, and it draws attention, which you don't want.

Secondly, as soon as you bail out, go prone. Please try to avoid getting teamkilled.

Oh, btw, one final thing. Don't bail out of seat number 7 on the PLA cow.

And, actually, one more thing. You will take almost no damage when falling into the water, even from a really high altitude. So it is possible for a chopper to hover over a river in the grey area, where he can't be seen, and for the people to then bail out without starting to bleed, if they manage to hit the water (remember, you can steer yourself, even while not using a parachute)

Post by **Masaq** » 2007-07-30 21:23

Actually I'm gunna go WAY out on a limb and say:

Passengers *should* fire the miniguns/HMGs, just the once, per ride:

As soon as you get in, fire a SHORT (1s or less) burst, so you familiarise yourself with the gun's firing position- no crosshair, so should a genuine target show itself you need to know roughly where your shots will be going.

After that (or if you've ridden in the #2 or #3 positions enough and know the aimpoint of the gun), keep off the damn things until you see a target you can kill.

Ace42 · Post by **Ace42** » 2007-07-30 21:28

'[R-PUB wrote:Masaq']
After that (or if you've ridden in the #2 or #3 positions enough and know the aimpoint of the gun), keep off the damn things until you see a target you can kill.

Damn straight. It's hard to hit things whilst moving, but those guns are too lethal to be wasted doing nothing if you see a squad in your sights. I've had my whole squad greased by a BH on its way to a flag.

Post by **Dunehunter** » 2007-07-30 21:44

Hm, yes, best way appears to be to draw a horizontal line, and hope for the wall of lead to scythe some of them down.

CAS_117 · Post by **CAS_117** » 2007-07-31 02:47

I took a sniper rifle and put a red dot on the cross hairs with a marker. Its the Crayola combat optical red dot sight!

Red Halibut · Post by **Red Halibut** » 2007-07-31 10:12

...and you don't feel cheap doing that?

Sorry Caboose, but doing that gives you a reference point even when you are firing from the hip and that's just not realistic. It isn't "cheating" per se, but it certainly isn't playing fair. Do yourself a favour and lose the monitor dot.

Post by **Masaq** » 2007-07-31 14:21

Just set your monitor up so the centre of the screen is where your eyes naturally fall... Obliviates any need for low-down monitor-dotting, and makes blind-sighting things like .50 cals and the BH miniguns much easier.

I find in proper, close, CQB, I'm usually the guy who comes out standing upright. I put it down to a) picking up kits with heavier rounds (yay for G3!) when I can, b) Switching to 3-rnd or FA whenever I'm expecting CQB, and c) having the centre of my screen at eye-height.

Still have probs getting mounted weapons "just so" though.