New Faction -- Chinese Rebels

[Expendable Grunt]

I realized in some of the feedback from the Chinese Militia faction thread that China has a well equiped Militia already. This does not work out in my favor as at the moment I'm not up for doing a conventional force. As such I was thinking about threads involving the MEC vs PLA issue with them both being force 2 factions or whatnot.

So I thought, well, if I lived in a nation that is less than free, and felt resentment towards it, and then suddenly found my nation under attack by 4 different forces, what would I do? Well, short of joining the invaders, a small rebellion might be in order...

Concept: These are guys that are inspired by jaded (deserting?) PLA soldiers from the war against the US, GB, and Canada (assuming they're fighting too). These soldiers, spreading anti-governmental propoganda, have gathered a sizeable force and have secured places in the western regions of China,the sparsely populated areas away from most of civilization. In their march away from their home towns and cities, they've looted a sizeable lot of weapons and equipment, and have at their disposal some experienced soldiers to help lead the rebelion.


So here are my kit ideas, pretty much the same as the PLA Militia idea.

BASIC KITS
Scout
*Knife
*Type 56 Carbine (SKS) [1+3]
*Smoke [2]
*Binocs
*Bandage

Rebel
*Knife
*Type 56 Assault Rifle (AK-47) [1+3]
*Fragmentation Grenades [4]
*Smoke Grenades [1]
*Shovel
*Bandage

Laborer //Seems heavy to me.
*Knife
*Type 56 Assault Rifle [1+2]
*Explosives (not as powerful as C4, more powerful than SLAM)
*Landmines (AP and AT...hmm)
*Shovel
*Wrench
*Bandages

Medic
*Knife
*Type 56 Assault Rifle [1+2]
*Medic Bag (Maybe just a **** load of bandages?)
*Smoke [2]

REQUESTABLE UNLIMITED
Crewman
*Knife
*QSZ-92 Pistol [1+2]


REQUESTABLE RESTRICTED
Officer
*Knife
*QSZ-92 Pistol [1+2]
*QBZ-95 with Scope [1+8]
*Fragmentation Grenades [4]
*Smoke [2]
*Flash Bangs
*Signal Grenades
*Binoculars
*Body Armor
*Bandages

REQUESTABLE LIMITED
Anti-Air Conscript
*Knife
*Type 56 Carbine [1+3]
*HN-5 MANPAD [1+1]
*Bandage

Support
*Knife
*RPD SAW [1+2 75 round Drums]
*Bandage

Grenadier (Modified as par Bobs idea + my original concept)
*Knife
*Type 56 Carbine
*Fragmentation Grenades [8]
*Smoke [2]
*Bandage

Rifleman Anti-Tank
*Knife
*Type 56 Carbine [1+3]
*PF-89
*Binoculars
*Bandage

Sniper
*Knife
*QSZ-92 Pistol [1+2]
*Mosin-Nagant Bolt Action with Scope [1+3]
*Binoculars

Marksman
*Knife
*Scoped Type 56 Carbine [1+3]
*Binoculars

PICK UP:
GPMG Kit
*Knife
*Type 56 GPMG [1+2]

Stolen PLA kit (?)
*Knife
*QBZ-95 (with or without scope not sure)
*Fragmentation grenades


Notes: These guys should have a commander, so they can build defences.


Other Ideas:
I would like to see about maybe making an Anti Personel landmine. It would be given to the labourer, I'd say. I know it's against some convention, but these buggers arn't listening...

VEHICLES

Light Jeep:
Paratrooper FAV

Medium Jeep:
???

Heavy Vehicle:
BRDM-2 (China doesn't officially use it, though lots of countries have, and I figure some would show up in China. It also looks cool, and you know it. It would have a seat of 4 however. Requires crewman.)

APC: The 2.5 Ton truck model would do great as a mass-troop transits. Seems fairly cheap in comparison to a full blown APC, and these guys don't have transport choppers.

Maps: One Urban map and one Jungle/forrest map would be good I think, for starters. They would be fighting the PLA excluseively. Mountians would be good too.

[Nimble]

Seems like it wouldn't require too much work ( Not saying it'd be dead easy ) and would add an interesting new faction to the game. Perhaps give them a few US weapons aswell, if the US was making war in China ... I doubt they'd be against supplying the rebels a bit to aid their cause. Also, not sure about them sharing the exact same transport vehicles. Might get confusing, perhaps a technical or something along those lines would be best.

[Outlawz7]

I take, EG has started working on it himself, judging by the thread in Community Modding

[youm0nt]

Problem are the player models. What will they look like? If someone can make a concept model then someone will have to create it or perhaps just make a reskin of a different player model. Lots of work though...

[azn_chopsticks_boi]

i would think a N.Korean faaction would work better :/

[Falkun]

The vbf2 Chinese models would do. For some of the kits, we could probably use the Chinese uniform. For others, perhaps we could borrow from other existing factions. I wonder how the militia uniforms would look on them...

[DavidP]

Love it! But maybe for the crewman they should have a wrench and Type 56.

[Expendable Grunt]

The models will be the largest issue.

I agree on the vehicle issue -- I'll see what I can do.

As for US supplies, I want the first map to be a "all on our own" thing. The follow up map would have US pickup kits, for things such as heavy AT and the like.

[Bob_Marley]

The vbf2 Chinese models would do. For some of the kits, we could probably use the Chinese uniform. For others, perhaps we could borrow from other existing factions. I wonder how the militia uniforms would look on them...

Would need a reskin.

Recycling the Chinese as they are (as this is intended to be an anti-PLA faction) is just asking for a silly amount of friendly fire.

[Expendable Grunt]

Yeah, the skins are not decided upon just yet. I figure civilian looking stuff. The deserters will have ditched their uniforms.

[BetterDeadThanRed]

So this faction is going to be anti-PLA? Would it make sense then to add NATO weaponry to the mix a la Russia/Afghanistan war?

[Expendable Grunt]

So this faction is going to be anti-PLA? Would it make sense then to add NATO weaponry to the mix a la Russia/Afghanistan war?

As mentioned before, maybe for later maps.

[Outlawz7]

Well, we can reskinn the PLA with the new digital camo, they got and give the old ones to PLA rebels

[PRC_Heavy_Z]

I seriously doubt a deserting faction would be as well armed as the people's militia since the militia gets its arms from a "warehouse" system controlled mostly by the government and its very hard to own arms in China, also in the time of war any deserter from the PLA will be kill immediately so there probably wouldn't be much ex-pla ppl

[Outlawz7]

Thought so ^^

Suggest, we make a North Korean faction and put them into Hills of Hamyong for a start?

[Expendable Grunt]

I seriously doubt a deserting faction would be as well armed as the people's militia since the militia gets its arms from a "warehouse" system controlled mostly by the government and its very hard to own arms in China, also in the time of war any deserter from the PLA will be kill immediately so there probably wouldn't be much ex-pla ppl

Raids for the win.

A minority of the force is made of deserters, the rest are rebelling civilians.

Since you're the resident Chinese player I am somewhat concerend you might find the idea offensive.

[youm0nt]

North Korean faction? Now we would need some people to do Korean voice overs...

Perhaps for the Chinese rebels, someone can use the militia models and replace the heads of the PLA soldiers onto the bodies of the militia models and then reskin it. Or use the insurgent player models that don't have the shemagh and put the PLA heads onto the insurgent bodies. That is, if this faction will be happening or if this is even possible.

[Expendable Grunt]

If I feel wide enough support I'll start working on it (coding) though I'd likely need help skinning/modeling.

[ReaperMAC]

They would be pretty good for maps like Mao Valley, with the whole village in the forest and things like that. Village could be their base of operations and such. PLA vs PLA rebels?

[Expendable Grunt]

PLA vs PLA rebels?

That's the plan.