"ADOPT A NEWBIE" Program

-=TB=-ante9383 · Post by **-=TB=-ante9383** » 2007-08-20 05:26

It saddens me to see a thread called SNOBS, posted by frustrated on-and-off PR player who is tired of being called names for being a newbie. Sadly, the man is right. I mainly play on a certain European server (cough THORS BRIGADE cough) run by understanding and helpful admins, but even there the noob-bashing is present like on any other public server. When a noob asks a question à la the infamous "what's the shovel for?", most always they will get a quick and accurate answer, though some players (including myself I gotta admit) cannot bite their tongue and will say "to dig your own grave" etc. (Yes , hilarious to you and your squaddies, but not helpful and really off-putting for the newbie!)
We all love PR, right? We all started at some point, right? And we fucked up more than a few times when we did, right? So stop acting like you are Delta Force operators and get your heads out of your asses, people.
You are playing with real people with real emotions. PR is not Army bootcamp and don't you dare tell me or the newbies to harden the fuck up or similar.
"RTFM" or "go back to vanilla" are not appropriate responses to understandable questions like "why can't I get in the turret of a manned tank?" (you've got to be in the same squad as the tank driver).

Thus I propose the "Adopt a Newbie" program.

I call all experienced squad leaders to keep one slot open for a newbie each round, and start teaching those new players instead of ostrisizing and cursing them. Project Reality, magnificent as it may be, will never grow if the newbie experience does not change for the better. It is our duty to educate players and share the great fun we are having playing PR with new players!

Newbies: by all means, read the manual, but don't be afraid to ask questions.
You will find me and many others like me on the above mentioned server most weekdays.

Post by **Rhino** » 2007-08-20 05:52

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f134.html

Bowskill · Post by **Bowskill** » 2007-08-20 06:05

The way I see it, if you can't be bothered to spend a few minutes reading the manual why should I spend a few of my minutes answering all of your questions?

Yes we all started at one point, and do you know what the first thing I, and I assume many others did? Had a quick look at the manual to see what was new and to find out how it worked, didn't take long at all.

CAS_117 · Post by **CAS_117** » 2007-08-20 06:28

Dig your own grave please.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-08-20 07:26

lol, Thors Brigade, I went MEC commander on Ejod and once I realized, Im not going to get any support, I became one-man army and ended up with the first place

One time, a US squad near Ruins popped smoke everywhere, so you couldnt see shit, I was a medic, switched G3 to full auto, went in firing like mad, reload, fire more, go out, reload again and wasted 3 clips and a whole squad

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-08-20 07:32

I actually enjoy newbies, not noobs,

newbies are always wanting to learn where are noobs only wanted "to test out the M95" then they TK you.

Having a newbie in my squad is ok by me, as long as their now ******** i dont care,

They learn more by being with an experienced SL than reading any damn Manual.

Because when they get on a server and say "hey guys heads up im a newbie"

I would prefer to hear the SL say "hey yeah just tell me what you know so far, remember read the manual it will make your life much easier" than "ok noob first thing RTFM; what no you noob dont destroy the spawn cars"

That happened to me once and i told him, "dude yeah i usually hate Tking but if i see you drive another spawn car as a suicide car, im going to do it " (joking manner).

I like this idea and hopefully it will catch on.

ER909

Berry[13thmeu] · Post by **Berry[13thmeu]** » 2007-08-20 08:19

when im not playing with my clan witch is rare at the rate were growing, i let who ever in my squad it doesnt matter old or new.

VipersGhost · Post by **VipersGhost** » 2007-08-20 08:51

Eddiereyes909 wrote:I actually enjoy newbies, not noobs,

newbies are always wanting to learn where are noobs only wanted "to test out the M95" then they TK you.

Having a newbie in my squad is ok by me, as long as their now ******** i dont care,

They learn more by being with an experienced SL than reading any damn Manual.

ER909

True Story Eddie, its actually kinda cool sometimes to get a "newbie". For me they start out a little run-n-gun which is fine. I typically just have them follow me around for a while and listen up...I think it puffs me ego teaching someone something I guess...who knows. Its a nice change of pace having to take care of another guy and keep his head down. By the end of the round they are usually up to speed on teamwork and most of the mechanics. I haven't seen many of these guys around though lately...seems to be idiots or regulars.

maz.uk · Post by **maz.uk** » 2007-08-20 09:09

on our server we have a message asking new players to let a clan memeber no they are new and if possible we will get them in a squad and try to help plus the new players to pr stay with the squad leader a lot better than most players and follow orders , yes they might not no wot every things or how to do things , how long dos it take to tell some one get a crew man kit from the back of an apc or tank or go to a main flag or rally point to get other kits , about a min

lets keep pr a great game and community

.:iGi:. Greg · Post by **.:iGi:. Greg** » 2007-08-20 10:14

Unless there are loads of us on and we have a squad full of iGis on, we welcome anybody to join our squads. Don't really care for newbies who just join squads to become snipers, then disappear across the other side of the map.

I don't mind answering a couple of quick questions just to help out, but anymore and it gets a bit tiresome especially if you are in the middle of a good fight.

There have been some great newbies join recently, some that are good on VOIP and learn quickly, so I don't have any problem with those joining ours squads.

Now noobs on the other hand can stay away.

-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba · Post by **-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba** » 2007-08-20 10:52

Outlawz wrote:lol, Thors Brigade, I went MEC commander on Ejod and once I realized, Im not going to get any support, I became one-man army and ended up with the first place

One time, a US squad near Ruins popped smoke everywhere, so you couldnt see shit, I was a medic, switched G3 to full auto, went in firing like mad, reload, fire more, go out, reload again and wasted 3 clips and a whole squad

wrong thread?

@ante your right, its unfair and happens to me also the new ones are getting the target the noobs should be.

Post by **Masaq** » 2007-08-20 10:59

Direct newbs to the PR Training Team located at

http://realitymod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=134

For all their training needs

Direct noobs to Satan, for all their being-poked-with-pitchforks needs

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-08-20 11:11

-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba wrote:wrong thread?

Yes and no.

What we need to teach the newcomers, is tactics.
Right now, they all run around sniping and blazing on full auto, have no tactical awarness and tons of so called 'tunnel vision', where you can go past them and they wont notice you, because they have no idea, what situational awarness is.
I sometimes can't believe, how flanking can be successfull, even staying behind a box can save you, because they all run around with their vision focused in front of them, while no one ever keeps an eye on their six.

It comes down to the smallest things, like stand still while being meded, take cover, dont misuse smoke - the fact, that I could take out a whole squad without being even shot once, because they all threw the smoke grenades on their own position, shows how smoke is particulary misused.

-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba · Post by **-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba** » 2007-08-20 11:21

we can go on counting what they do wrong, yes.
but i dont know also how to handle floods of them(yeah, ok, killing them), but for teaching them. if there training options like presented by masaq thats a good start but the most players will not use it. no reason to change pr for their needs, but good ideas for the newguys still needed.

NiGHTWoLF · Post by **NiGHTWoLF** » 2007-08-20 12:15

I want to adopt someone!! If you want me as your eFather drop me a PM!

Post by **epoch** » 2007-08-20 12:36

I'm happy to have 'newbies' in my squads. My only demands are that they actually follow their orders, and use VOIP (I hate typing time after time in game).

Every player should RTFM as it gives a good grounding of the fundamentals, and particularly things related to limited kits and point scoring. But as someone said previously, new players are generally more open to suggestions and advice than older 'know it alls'.

The more we help each other, the more we all get out of it in the long term.

BeerHunter · Post by **BeerHunter** » 2007-08-20 13:30

So...logging on a [n00b]BeerHunter[CDN] (do this to indicate my newbiness

) instead of [CoFR]BeerHunter[CDN] isn't such a good idea then I take it..

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-08-20 13:48

BeerHunter wrote:So...logging on a [n00b]BeerHunter[CDN] (do this to indicate my newbiness ) instead of [CoFR]BeerHunter[CDN] isn't such a good idea then I take it..

unless you want to be mocked

Post by **epoch** » 2007-08-20 13:52

mercilessly

Eddiereyes909 · Post by **Eddiereyes909** » 2007-08-20 15:16

epoch wrote:mercilessly

agreed