M4 (SOPMOD?) vs M16

SVD_Sniper · Post by **SVD_Sniper** » 2007-09-11 13:45

I generally play infantry based maps, and have recently found mself to almost exclusively use the M4 carbine. IT seems to take far fewer rounds to drop a target, at almsot any range than the M16 that rifleman/combat enginner/corpsman get. Is this an intentional "effect" or am I simply better with the M4? It is possible I am just more accurrate, as you have the nice red dot sights (oh and also, full auto is handy in CQC) or does the M4 actually deal more damage?

Bowskill · Post by **Bowskill** » 2007-09-11 13:47

They should deal the same damage, but the M16 should be more accurate due to having a longer barrel. The M4 probably feels 'better' due to full auto spray and pray.

MrD · Post by **MrD** » 2007-09-11 13:59

The zoom on the M16 means you can engage targets far further out ingame than you possibly could with the M4

The M4 makes a better CQB weapon with its high rate of fire and full auto capabilities

Post by **Rhino** » 2007-09-11 14:00

the M16 in its current form is a load of rubbish. Wait for v0.7 for the good m16s

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-09-11 14:04

Rhino, you just made me happy <3

Hotrod525 · Post by **Hotrod525** » 2007-09-11 14:14

SOPMOD is for both... you can use every mod on M4 and M16...

Colfax · Post by **Colfax** » 2007-09-11 14:22

EDIT

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:the M16 in its current form is a load of rubbish. Wait for v0.7 for the good m16s

Awesome. QBZ and G3 are far superior ATM. IMO!

I use semi-auto with the M4 and take targets down faster too *IMO*. I just despise the M16. But it sucks b/c i always get wtf are you spec ops for. So i generally don't use it even though i like the gun better. And its not the full auto because i use semi-auto all the time. I would prefer not so play US at all but then i feel bad always switching to the other team so i don't do that. So I'm stuck.

SVD_Sniper · Post by **SVD_Sniper** » 2007-09-11 14:49

I love the scoped G3 for MEC rifleman. Its absolutley awesome - I'll take one from my fallen foes at the first oppurtunity. The QBZ is a close second for me, although too often I go into CQC having switched firemodes, thinking I'm in fullauto but I'm actually in 3rnd burst. I cant really hold that agaisnt the weapon though, thats pure operator error.

Rhino, you make it seem like there is a twak needed for the M16's? If thats the case, I'm much releived, as I assumed I was just **** at using it ^^ (which I guess I am, the ironsight on it is horrible imo)

Post by **Rhino** » 2007-09-11 16:07

in v0.7 there will be new models for the M16A4 (was the A2 in vBF2) and the M4, with scoped versions for the rifleman etc

Ecko · Post by **Ecko** » 2007-09-11 16:16

It probably is the red dot that is making your life easier. Iron sights are very clumsy since you can't see below your point of aim.

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-09-11 16:31

I love the effect of a certain movie, MrD...

The Red dot, high rate of fire means you shoot bullets in less time on full auto making you the leet specop killer of them all.

[EC]DR.NOobFragger · Post by **[EC]DR.NOobFragger** » 2007-09-11 16:38

it seems to me that the iron sight guns have less recoil than the Scoped ones... like the Scoped G3 i cant go full auto but with the iron sights i can just spray on a target and hit him with alot of the rounds. but ya... the M16 on here is pathetic... like ill put 2, 3 round bursts into someone and they will walk off like i just shot them with a paintball gun...

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-09-11 16:52

Recoil is the same on both scope and nonscoped versions. Do you seriously think you can spray someone at 300 metres using the scope?

Post by **Rhino** » 2007-09-11 16:54

the recoil looks like its more cos you are zoomed in and its a visual effect, but in fact its the same as the iron sights, just you are not zoomed in with iron sights.

[EC]DR.NOobFragger · Post by **[EC]DR.NOobFragger** » 2007-09-11 18:39

ya i figured it was the same amount of recoil.. but to me it just seems that is has less recoil.. and i didnt mean 300m away.. i meant like 10 feet away.

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-09-11 19:11

Ecko wrote:It probably is the red dot that is making your life easier. Iron sights are very clumsy since you can't see below your point of aim.

The ironsights that will be on the M16A4 will be much better than the current ones. Not to mention that the ACOG will be pretty sexy too. I actually plan on trying to match the bullet drop up with the ACOG optic information but I doubt I'll even get close due to crappy BF2 bullet drop, nevertheless I'll try

Post by **Mongolian_dude** » 2007-09-11 19:57

[R-DEV]Jaymz wrote:The ironsights that will be on the M16A4 will be much better than the current ones. Not to mention that the ACOG will be pretty sexy too. I actually plan on trying to match the bullet drop up with the ACOG optic information but I doubt I'll even get close due to crappy BF2 bullet drop, nevertheless I'll try

Whut about them sounds, Jaymz?
I wanna hear them rifles crack! >

...mongol...

.:iGi:.BLACKWIRE · Post by **.:iGi:.BLACKWIRE** » 2007-09-11 20:29

I can't stress how much I'm looking forward to the ACOG. The current zoom is ****!

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-09-11 20:47

[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude wrote:Whut about them sounds, Jaymz?
I wanna hear them rifles crack! >

...mongol...

There a comin!