Prone - stand accuracy

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-12-14 17:54

I've read, that in 0.7 you will have to stay still for a bit to regain your accuracy before shooting, thus removing the runlikehellltheninstaproneheadshot gameyness.

But there's still a really annoying issue with people going prone-stand all the time. Since 0.6 weapons are so accurate, everyone exploits this to keep from getting headshotted. Might be useless against range, as there's some sway when you get back up, but it's really annoying in close quarters, when people just go run-prone-shoot-stand-shoot-stand-shoot until they finished off their enemy with their amazing 1337 skillz.

The weapons will be tweaked with 0.7, but people's 'tactics' won't be, so players will probably keep doing this.

So what I'd like to suggest is a massive inaccuracy when going prone, so you'd had more chances attacking a guy with a knife then going instaprone on him (/sarcasm). At least for about 2-3 seconds and then start having the rifle go back to being accurate.

I know that this has already been done, but reading fuzzheads and Pattersons posts about it it doesn't really sound much, plus Fuzzhead said that the instaproning would still be an issue in CQB, so why not increase that inaccuracy even more to get rid of this?

Would be also nice, if this was implemented on snipers and marksman rifles as well, so people wouldn't have a gamey advantage of being capable of instaheadshoting whoever they see, while the enemy would not.

Discuss.

Sadist_Cain · Post by **Sadist_Cain** » 2007-12-14 18:16

It is true, standing shots are fast but innaccurate, dropping to a knee dosnt take much time but increase accuracy. However going prone theres usually a bit of fiddiling to get a good accurate aim on. Prone is a good stable position and gives best accuracy, however your aim is much slower, anyway to incooperate this into PR?

Just try it, stand up and see how quick you can go to a knee and/or spin around, then see the difference when laid down

Post by **Jaymz** » 2007-12-14 18:21

Outlawz, it's a great point but the whole "jack in the box rifleman" topic has been talked to death. db could write a thesus on how BF2 deviation works and how he's adjusted it for 0.7 onwards and I still wouldn't understand it.

Post by **Outlawz7** » 2007-12-14 18:24

Yeah, I know it was, I just wasn't sure if the prone-stand spam is addressed with all those tweaks too

nedlands1 · Post by **nedlands1** » 2007-12-15 03:01

[R-DEV]Jaymz wrote:Outlawz, it's a great point but the whole "jack in the box rifleman" topic has been talked to death. db could write a thesus on how BF2 deviation works and how he's adjusted it for 0.7 onwards and I still wouldn't understand it.

I would imagine that he decreased the amount the deviation decreases per server frame for the "turn", "speed" and possibly the "fire" deviation modifiers. This would result in a longer time for the deviation to reduce after turning, strafing, walking/running and firing. I'm not sure if changing positions(eg standing --> prone) counts towards the "turn" or "speed" deviation calculations but if it did you would receive a hefty penalty for changing position, regardless of if you are moving or turning (aka being a "jack in a box" against a sandbag).

AnRK · Post by **AnRK** » 2007-12-15 19:28

While I support removing this kinda thing 2-3 seconds is utterly ridiculous, a second of unbearable inaccuracy maybe 1.5 seems a little more reasonable to me, these kinda kills are generally instantly after hitting the floor anyway, if you had that small amount more of reflex time they won't have a chance of pulling the whole prone and shoot thing off.