Are the hellfire missiles to weak?

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2007-12-16 20:09

I was bored and thought id go watch some videos of tanks getting blown up by choppers, and i found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHvtoQq3Cq0[/youtube]
seems to me that the hellfires in PR aren't that powerful. I dont think you even have to hit the tank to kill it irl.

Sabre_tooth_tigger · Post by **Sabre_tooth_tigger** » 2007-12-16 20:12

They are 1 hit kill on everything that moves, no they're fine

Waaah_Wah · Post by **Waaah_Wah** » 2007-12-16 21:00

The tank did get destroyed didnt it? Thats what happens in PR from one TVGM. WTF do you want exactly?

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2007-12-16 21:08

Waaah_Wah wrote:The tank did get destroyed didnt it? Thats what happens in PR from one TVGM. WTF do you want exactly?

i was thinking that irl you dont have to actually hit the tank but only very close. Doing this doesnt kill the tanks in PR. This could be a small step towards more realistic choppers thats WTF i want.(and probably easy)

Viper5 · Post by **Viper5** » 2007-12-16 21:43

No IRL you'd have to hit the tank. Hellfires dont have the explosive radius to destroy a tank but rely on a direct hit. Even then, some MBTs such as the Abrams have continued on despite several AGM hits.

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2007-12-16 22:18

Hellfires are designed to defeat armor. Rule of thumb is greater armor penetration = smaller blast radius. They're really quite small as far as missiles go, you definitely need to hit the tank you want to blow up.

The TVGMs are pretty fricking powerful, 1 hit kill on all vehicles I believe. That seems about right.

Mora · Post by **Mora** » 2007-12-16 22:55

besides where is the skill when you only have the hit allround the tank..

TII · Post by **TII** » 2007-12-17 04:00

I think that's a laser guided bomb, not a hellfire.

CAS_117 · Post by **CAS_117** » 2007-12-17 06:10

[R-PUB]Viper5 wrote:No IRL you'd have to hit the tank. Hellfires dont have the explosive radius to destroy a tank but rely on a direct hit. Even then, some MBTs such as the Abrams have continued on despite several AGM hits.

No they were disabled by recoilless rifles, had their fuel set on fire, disabled, and further destroyed by the crew from the inside. To ensure destruction, an AGM-65 and 2 AGM-114's was fired to ensure component destruction. From the outside it appeared intact.

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2007-12-17 16:17

TII wrote:I think that's a laser guided bomb, not a hellfire.

the hellfire is a laser guided missile so..

A_Grounded_Pilot · Post by **A_Grounded_Pilot** » 2007-12-17 17:18

markonymous wrote:the hellfire is a laser guided missile so..

He's talking about the video... he thinks it's a LGB. I'm certainly not an expert, but I'd tend agree with him.

Post by **Deadfast** » 2007-12-17 18:48

A_Grounded_Pilot wrote:He's talking about the video... he thinks it's a LGB. I'm certainly not an expert, but I'd tend agree with him.

Same here. The video is too pixelated to tell a thing from it but there seems to be no smoke trail behind.

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2007-12-17 19:42

dunno guys but it says its a hellfire but then again what do they know.

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2007-12-17 20:22

The camera view also supports the fact that it is in fact an LGB. The camera's vehicle is clearly moving at an angle to the target, as the view is rotating around the tank, not head on as apache cam is when firing a Hellfire. Also you see the weapon entering at an angle from the targeting vehicle, meaning that either the cam view we are seeing is not from the firing vehicle or that it is a jet.

So I would say either they don't know ****, or they have information they don't provide to us, i.e. that this is from an uninvolved/spotting aircraft.

TII · Post by **TII** » 2007-12-17 20:48

Top right hand corner has the altitude, 20000ft. MFD looks like its from a F-16.

markonymous · Post by **markonymous** » 2007-12-17 20:50

yea i also freezed the frame at around 9 sec it looks like 4 bombs so sry guys i should have inspected the video i bit more before posting really sorry.

killer911pt · Post by **killer911pt** » 2007-12-17 21:11

i think he has a point the hellfire missles are a little underpowered

Waaah_Wah · Post by **Waaah_Wah** » 2007-12-17 21:28

^^They kill everything in one shot dont they? Do you want to nuke half the map or something??

Razick · Post by **Razick** » 2007-12-18 02:50

The impact in the video is not a hell fire it seemed more like a 250 pounder that was laser guided by a plane not a helicopter (notice the slight strafe).