Merlin Bugs

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-01-21 02:21

Yeah we know. As for plans, nobody knows.

Why do people keep calling Basrah Basura? It's not a toilet...

Post by **Rico** » 2008-01-21 02:49

We don't know what is causing it, thats the problem.

beavis.uk^ · Post by **beavis.uk^** » 2008-01-21 08:31

ok think at it logically

other heli's do not lag
merlin lags

it lags on al basrah and on the china vs brit forest map (forgot name)

therefore meaning it is the merlin, and merlin only

therefore meaning a complete re-do of a merlin will fix it ?

such as a re-skin or some kind of fresh-start on a merlin will be a fix

yes it may be a big job but if you really want it fixed this is a almost 100% guarentee sinse its only this heli

Heskey · Post by **Heskey** » 2008-01-21 08:36

beavis the maps have nothing to do with it. It's the Merlin full stop.

And the Devs modelled it once, they cba to do it again because of a semi-rare bug, unless you offer to do it for them?

beavis.uk^ · Post by **beavis.uk^** » 2008-01-21 08:42

well i just was thinking about it "logically" sinse people can't understand what it is, some people are still un-sure if its their system or not

but like i said, i used the maps an example to show its defintely the merlin because it lags on both maps

some people say they do not have lag... have people tried such things as, put all their graphics to low, (especially dynamic lighting)... or AA... and another tester will be vsync..

my question is, does everyone have this lag? some people claim they don't...

Symplify · Post by **Symplify** » 2008-01-22 03:39

beavis.uk^ wrote:ok think at it logically

other heli's do not lag
merlin lags

it lags on al basrah and on the china vs brit forest map (forgot name)

therefore meaning it is the merlin, and merlin only

therefore meaning a complete re-do of a merlin will fix it ?

such as a re-skin or some kind of fresh-start on a merlin will be a fix

yes it may be a big job but if you really want it fixed this is a almost 100% guarentee sinse its only this heli

Unfortunately, we are dealing with hundreds/thousands of lines of code, and as it is code thinking logically does not always work. And sometimes, you change one thing and other things stop working.

ralfidude · Post by **ralfidude** » 2008-01-22 06:58

Beavis from what i know about the merlin, is this. If i go and try to pilot the merlin, and it lags, it will lag for all players that try to get into the merlin that round. When the server is restarted, you might get lucky and not have the lag, and then the players will say they dont have the lag. SO the lag issue happens from time to time, usually like 3 out of 4 times it will lag. crashing it doesnt reset the lag either. Somebody said the backdoor was the problem. When open it does create complications...

General Dragosh · Post by **General Dragosh** » 2008-01-22 16:22

Could it maybe be the moveable rear hatch that lags ???

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-01-22 19:13

It lags 100% of the time for me online, 0% of the time on LAN. That's all I can contribute, really.

Flan · Post by **Flan** » 2008-01-22 20:01

Expendable Grunt wrote:It lags 100% of the time for me online, 0% of the time on LAN. That's all I can contribute, really.

Yeah, i have the same experience. I think it may be a problem with "too much networkable info" which is what the editor is always complaining about, i believe that would be why it only happens online.

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2008-01-22 23:50

I think the DEVs have probably tried pretty hard to figure out what is wrong. I doubt they want one of their best models to pis everyone off when they try to fly it.

beavis.uk^ · Post by **beavis.uk^** » 2008-01-23 12:01

Well, if it helps you at all... I didn't have lag for 1 round yesterday while i was flying, then on the next map change/crash (24/7 Al Basrah BattleArena) I had the lag again...

I didn't change anything, didn't exit bf2, just stayed in the game, and reconnected after the server crashed.

burghUK · Post by **burghUK** » 2008-02-03 02:31

im a very experienced merlin pilot and fly it every chance i get on al basrah. when i try and fly it the lag can vary alot.

some times it will be unflyable others barely noticeable and on rare occasions no lag at all. ive no clue as to why though.

Warmagi · Post by **Warmagi** » 2008-02-12 14:36

It not happens to all the ppl. I tried Merlin 2 times since 0.7. Usually a blackhawk pilot. It wasnt lagging for me in 0.6 - never ever. Now 2 times in Merlin on diferent maps - 2 times unplayable and asked someone else to fly it and he was ok. Another time second person also experienced lag, and every other pilot entering it was saying lag im not flying or crashing it.

I really hate that the Merlin is useless now because of the lag. Most of the time it just stands on the helipad... or its remains.