the fAtAll@ clan

TehDutchDude · Post by **TehDutchDude** » 2008-02-03 17:34

Hey guys. I played some games against a bunch of.. well.. what should I call them... dudes, from the fAtAll@ clan. After having played around 6-7 games with em, I and some of my friends suspect them from some sort of a hack or something else that aids them. Why? Read on.

We were playing OGT against them at a certain point. My team was chinese and we were playing against 10 fatal guys. We got pushed back to our main base, as they were amazingly good shots. Seriously amazing. I died about 6 times, and every single time to a headshot. My clanmates also died 95% to headshots. I was impressed. We thought it was time to alter tactics.

My squad and I (all clanmates, so we were very aware of the situation and we had very good communication) decided to go guerilla style. We hid in the grass, invisible to the eye. Suddenly, out of NOWHERE, a nade lands right in front of me. Literally one inch in front of my soldier's eye. I deemed it a lucky nade.

The game continued. My entire team was dying to grenades and headshots. Medics were obsolete. We couldn't even SEE them, and poof there we all died to a nade EXACTLY between our feet. When I died 22 times I was sure of it: This can't be luck.

Now, I just played another game against them. Jabal Al Burj, 32 players. Me and my squaddies are moving through the hills, when suddenly BOOM BOOM entire squad dies to nades. Right between our feet. Our medic, who had fallen behind, stealthily zaps me and my SL. No one knew we were then and suddenly, you guessed it, BOOM we all die to pinpoint accurate nades between our feet. Guess what? Fatal had joined the server.

Last example: 32 man EJOD. MEC side. I tell me squad to ignore gardens and immediately rush to east city. We place a RP between gardens and east city , I run around the corner of a building BOOM, there was a nade WAITING FOR ME. Game continued to be dominated by laser guided nades and insta headshots while they were moving from 100m range. Strangest thing: we never even saw them. We just heard explosions go off, and I personally also never saw a nade. Just BOOM. Kind of odd, but perhaps a bug.

What are your experiences with this clan? Where they just having very VERY good rounds and a lot of luck or do they use 'hacks'? I'm not accusing them off anything but they are simply so combat efficient that it does raise couple of questions.

supahpingi · Post by **supahpingi** » 2008-02-03 17:49

was the server punkbuster protected?
do u have any screens,movies or whatever to proof it?

TehDutchDude · Post by **TehDutchDude** » 2008-02-03 17:51

supahpingi wrote:was the server punkbuster protected?
do u have any screens,movies or whatever to proof it?

Sorry man, only my personal stories. It all happened on the DOG server (forgot it's full name but browse for DOG, and play when they play, they seem to like it). If I'm not mistaken it's PunkBuster protected.

=Romagnolo= · Post by **=Romagnolo=** » 2008-02-03 17:57

Well, the way you tell the history, looks like they are a very "special" clan, but without and solid proves, we can't say nothing.

Download FRAPS and try to film them playing.

Cp · Post by Cp » 2008-02-03 18:01

Maybe we can dig out the battlerecording if you tell us the server and the time in GMT.
not too many servers run the BC but we can give it a shot.

TehDutchDude · Post by **TehDutchDude** » 2008-02-03 18:06

I don't remember the entire server name, but filter on "DOG" and you'll find it. It's a server for 32 players max, lots of fun. I played against them approximately an hour ago, so one should look for 3 februari ~18.00. I live in Holland which is GMT+1.

I just checked it out, server doesn't run BattleRecorder

Full server name: DOG Soldiers PRMM 0.7

Jagular · Post by **Jagular** » 2008-02-03 20:18

hmmm...
without any evidance only one right answer - LOL

Alex6714 · Post by **Alex6714** » 2008-02-03 20:51

I have played with alpha before, he was cool. But no experience with the others.

scarmoe · Post by **scarmoe** » 2008-02-03 21:05

lol thats just LOL.
i too played with Alpha before and he's a good team player.
without evidence that is just hilarious. lol.

Drakenberg · Post by **Drakenberg** » 2008-02-03 21:17

Well i´ve played alot on the same server as them, all i can say is that most of them are unmature as hell, or enjoys to flab around alot...

I havnt seen more headshots than usual when i play with them.

ReaperMAC · Post by **ReaperMAC** » 2008-02-03 21:38

Did you bother taking pictures of their score? If they have obsured, and I mean, obsured K

ratios, it is possible, otherwise you may be suspecting a clan, but could be infact another person you haven't noticed...yet.

*spacecadett* · Post by ***spacecadett*** » 2008-02-03 22:02

Can this thread be locked as this accusation lacks evidence and is just useless.
I cant say im a fan of the way the fatal dudes play but, but to call their whole clan cheaters with out any hardcore evidence is just BS.

101 bassdrive · Post by **101 bassdrive** » 2008-02-03 22:52

theyve been around for ages.. and their passive aggressive playing style is quite impressive/annoying. kinda like burned soil. they stay at their starting blocks till they see an opening and just run you over and Ive seen em get sick kd ratio of it.
some might not like that style like space, but I admire it since I aint got the patience to so slowly constrain the enemy like they do^^

-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba · Post by **-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba** » 2008-02-04 05:56

lol, maybe they consuming kinda drug which increases their skills? only hardcore evidence is that most of them entirely lack an openminded friendly personality (yeah, except alpha and one or two others who occour me a nice person)

Pluizert · Post by **Pluizert** » 2008-02-04 10:02

Most of them ,what is saw, only think about their own K/D. Instead of making a good game with the whole team.

Phoenix.86 · Post by **Phoenix.86** » 2008-02-04 12:05

Meh they seem to be "normal" clan guys to me - not everyone of them's a nice person (from my pov that is); as usual the clanies are better players than most pubbers or new guys. Probably you just had a bad day or the fatal guys had a very good day - i had that happening in a match with lot's of LP guys on the other side, couldn't get anything done - and they do not cheat. So just relax and if you suspect somebody of cheating just take a look at the battlerecorder file

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-02-04 12:24

Phoenix.86 wrote:...just take a look at the battlerecorder file

Which unfortunately doesn't exist because the server doesn't save one, which leads me to thinking that playing on server w/e Battlerecorder is not a good idea.
I never really played with them and after what I've heard (regarding their play style) I don't really intend to.

Even if they do really cheat we have no proof. No proof = no ban. It's sad that possible cheaters get away this way but you can't risk banning innocent people just because they had a 'lucky day'.
You should try to get some evidence next time (Fraps video or even just few screenshots).

OldSchoolSoldier · Post by **OldSchoolSoldier** » 2008-02-04 14:54

Without Battle Recorder or PunkBuster Screen shots you have no proof

Post by **AfterDune** » 2008-02-04 15:46

I've played against the fatala-guys a few times in public play, but I've never found anything unusual about their scores and such. As far as I know, they're good and friendly players.

M4nicMin3r · Post by **M4nicMin3r** » 2008-02-04 15:58

Our clan played against the fatal guys once..., we got absolutley creamed..., they are realy good players. Dont worry we got pwned almost to the point of thinking they were hacking too, but we just sucked bad