what map and which army has the BMP3?

Dragonfire43560 · Post by **Dragonfire43560** » 2008-02-22 22:13

ive been hearng talks about a bmp3 in game, yet i dont ever remember seeing it? The only apc the MEC has that i recall is that one apc (the equivalent of the LAV25)unlses that is the BMP3???Cause i dont recall a bmp3 looking like that.

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-02-22 22:14

The MEC has it on Al Kufrah Oilfield.

Post by **PRC_Heavy_Z** » 2008-02-22 23:12

MEC also has it on Gulf of Omen WAC

Razick · Post by **Razick** » 2008-02-23 02:09

PRC_Heavy_Z wrote:MEC also has it on Gulf of Omen WAC

and frankly I belive they should have them in all of the MEC maps because as far as I know the BTR-90 was only a prototype and there only like what, two of them ever produced. So really I dont know why they continue to be in game as they where the supposed equivalent APC for the MEC in vanilla BF2.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2008-02-23 02:39

Razick wrote:and frankly I belive they should have them in all of the MEC maps because as far as I know the BTR-90 was only a prototype and there only like what, two of them ever produced. So really I dont know why they continue to be in game as they where the supposed equivalent APC for the MEC in vanilla BF2.

You and I are in agreement. The largest estimate for total number of BTR-90s produced as of late last year was a dozen, with some limited service in the MVD. But the United Arab Emirates actually fields more BMP-3s than Russia. You shall hopefully see it gone in the near term.

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-23 03:28

Yeah I never understood why they didn't get them on all of the maps, but meh. It's a pretty nifty vehicle.

Scorch · Post by **Scorch** » 2008-02-23 04:10

I just have 1 question though, are the troops you're carrying supposed to die after taking 1 LAT hit?

-=Rhodesy_77=- · Post by **-=Rhodesy_77=-** » 2008-02-23 05:53

well lets put it this way... do u feel good after puting your head in a metal bucket and having some1 bsah it with a baseball bat?.. yer well times that by 50 and thats around about wat it would be like in a light at attack on a apc... even though irl the soldiers might not die... they would be unable to fight...

BloodBane611 · Post by **BloodBane611** » 2008-02-23 06:43

The point of an Armored Personnel Carrier is to protect its troops. So I'm thinking no is the correct answer to your question Scorch.

-=Rhodesy_77=- · Post by **-=Rhodesy_77=-** » 2008-02-23 06:49

and wat is the point of ANTI armour round?... the armour is only there to protect them from LIGHT arms fire...

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-02-23 09:42

Can you imagine what kind of massacre it would cause in the lines of US vehicles ?

25mm Bushmaster Cannon of LAV-25 vs. 30mm 2A42 Cannon + 90mm Cannon of BMP-3.

$kelet0r · Post by **$kelet0r** » 2008-02-23 09:55

BloodBane611 wrote:The point of an Armored Personnel Carrier is to protect its troops. So I'm thinking no is the correct answer to your question Scorch.

I would venture the answer is yes - Russian APCs are infamous for being poorly armoured but heavily armed.

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2008-02-23 15:02

Deadfast wrote:Can you imagine what kind of massacre it would cause in the lines of US vehicles ?

25mm Bushmaster Cannon of LAV-25 vs. 30mm 2A42 Cannon + 90mm Cannon of BMP-3.

100mm, not 90mm. Same cannon as on the older T-55s, IIRC. BMP-3 and LAV-25(MC) aren't in the same class of vehicles. While LAV-25 may be classified as an APC, in practicality it can only carries 4 fully equipped dismounts in the back and is used by the Marines as a reconnaissance vehicle, similar to the way that the UK uses the Scimitar. BMP and Bradley are in the same category.

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-02-23 16:35

[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote:100mm, not 90mm. Same cannon as on the older T-55s, IIRC. BMP-3 and LAV-25(MC) aren't in the same class of vehicles. While LAV-25 may be classified as an APC, in practicality it can only carries 4 fully equipped dismounts in the back and is used by the Marines as a reconnaissance vehicle, similar to the way that the UK uses the Scimitar. BMP and Bradley are in the same category.

'PR Wiki' wrote: 1x 90mm Cannon (30 HEAT)
1x 30mm 2A42 Cannon (200 HEAT, 200 SABOT)

- MEC Vehicles - Project Reality Wiki

I actually saw this before - when I looked it up on the net I found the 100mm, but then I thought the BMP in game might be some other version or something.

Post by **Bob_Marley** » 2008-02-23 16:47

Nah Eddie, its a different one. The T-55 had the high velocity D-10T/D-10G 100mm gun, where as the BMP-3 uses the 2A70 low pressure gun (as its intended only for HE-Frag shells and launching ATGMs)

Pariel · Post by **Pariel** » 2008-02-23 18:06

[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote:100mm, not 90mm. Same cannon as on the older T-55s, IIRC. BMP-3 and LAV-25(MC) aren't in the same class of vehicles. While LAV-25 may be classified as an APC, in practicality it can only carries 4 fully equipped dismounts in the back and is used by the Marines as a reconnaissance vehicle, similar to the way that the UK uses the Scimitar. BMP and Bradley are in the same category.

Well, the Marines should really have the AAVP-7A1 as their APC, but that's another topic (which has been discussed before, I believe).

Anyway, from what I was able to dig up, the BMP is a dedicated IFV, and has only 35mm armor at the thickest point (although I couldn't find what thickness the armor kits the UAE may add onto their's would make the armor). That's even thinner armor than the AAVP (45mm--both these measurements are from Wikipedia), which has been criticized for being inadequate protection against RPG and mortars.

I think its fine to kill the infantry inside, as long as that level of protection is used to set the damage done to everything, i.e. tanks, APCs.