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So, I understand why crosshairs were removed, and I'm completely on board with that. The problem is that they also showed how severely moving affected your accuracy. Unless I'm mistaken, the only real indicator for when your aim is "set" in PR is trial and error. As a biathlon competitor, I'd say it's pretty clear when I'm ready to take a decent shot and when I'm not. Is this just a technical limitation, or is there some way to represent accuracy without reintroducing crosshairs?

If you need a clear, steady shot, keep still for a couple of seconds before firing. Do that, and your aim will improve, my friend.

In real life you hold your breath and such. BF2's engine doesn't support breathing and with that moving your rifle, but to simulate the holding-breath and keeping the rifle steady, wait like three seconds, then fire.
An accuracy indicator... is not going to happen, I'm afraid (though the HAT has it).

[R-DEV]AfterDune wrote: wait like three seconds, then fire.

I believe you only have to wait 1.3 seconds before your shot is perfectly accurate? Three seconds is a little excessive...

[R-DEV]AfterDune wrote:An accuracy indicator... is not going to happen,

I guess that's all I needed to hear. I'd be curious as to why not, but whatever.

theres no way to tell when your bulletsand gun will be at their 100% acuracy in RL...u just have to trust yurself and use trial and error

Conman51=US= wrote:theres no way to tell when your bulletsand gun will be at their 100% acuracy in RL...u just have to trust yurself and use trial and error

Not true for purposes of moving accuracy reductions, particularly since the aiming time represents taking up a shooting stance. The shooter knows when he's in a proper firing position, or he isn't a very good marksman.

It would be nice if a little reticule at the bottem of the screen indicated your accuracy, kinda like the HAT accuracy indicator, but at the bottem of the screen. That way, when the two semi-circles meet, you know you've attained perfect accuracy. This would represent a human beings ability to know when to fire, as all marksmen would know.

Cl_Flushentityhero wrote:Not true for purposes of moving accuracy reductions, particularly since the aiming time represents taking up a shooting stance. The shooter knows when he's in a proper firing position, or he isn't a very good marksman.

Just take the time aiming and you'll "know" you're in a proper firing position.

I feel the current system works well. In reality, you will pause for a moment after you've stopped in order to set your weapon up in a position to fire. I don't have any trouble hitting targets accurately from any position.

Oklahoman wrote:I feel the current system works well. In reality, you will pause for a moment after you've stopped in order to set your weapon up in a position to fire. I don't have any trouble hitting targets accurately from any position.

At the very least an indicator would come in handy for a sniper rifle. I mean, I doubt in real life it'd take them ten minutes to steady their hands. So it is kinda hard to judge ingame whether or not you're accurate. And a trial and error type thing is just out of the question for a sniper, since they need surprise to succeed.

[R-DEV]AfterDune wrote:Just take the time aiming and you'll "know" you're in a proper firing position.

Why not have some kind of indicator though?

Problibly impossible or hard to make a.k.a hardcoded

Nah, not hardcoded, really not. The crosshair would just have to be moved to the bottom, and i'm sure thats possible. (re-)moving the minimap, ammo indicator etc worked too, i dont see why this would be different for the crosshair.

But i understand that the devs dont want more stuff to appear on the screen, though i'd have nothing against a little indicator.

Cl_Flushentityhero wrote:Why not have some kind of indicator though?

You're asking this again? It's because in real life you have no indicator either. You only "know" if you are steady enough. And in-game it's about the same, you "know" you're steady enough if you've waited a second and haven't moved your gun too much...

The perfect answer would be weapon sway, which is sadly hardcoded (if made in a realistic way).

Though, maybe "simulated" weapons sway (animation without effect) would be better than no indication at all. But i dont think it can be made in a realistic way...

Uhm... yes

weapon sway would be a nice addition so that the sight would swing in a smaller and smaller circle until it's right on target

realistic 2. when I'm sniping I know when I'm on target because the cross-hairs line up when they don't I know I'll miss

so have an animation where the front and rear sights sway out of alignment progressively less and less until their dead on target. perfect solution!

Yes, but i dont know how possible it is, how hard to do and if there will be side effects.

naah I heard that even if you have weapon sway you will still shoot from the middle. or with deviation it will be random not following the sway.

I still sort of think that the illusion of a weapon sway is better than none at all.