HMGs

[Sanirius]

I suggest that:

The sandbags on the side of the HMGs you can deploy near forward outposts are made higher. This because you have little to no cover from the sides when manning these MGs, which makes the sandbags there pretty much useless, unless your prone and next to the MG. But that's probably not the point of those things. You have to have cover from the sides when manning the MG, which you don't have at the moment.
I'd say make them atleast as high as the normal sandbags, with just a gap in the middle for the MG. Or remove the sandbags on the HMGs, atleast that way you won't have a false feeling of safety when manning them.

Sanirius

[Caboosehatesbabies]

Yeah, they pretty much only cover half of you while manning the MG and you're pretty vulnerable.

I think the MG's need tweaked with a wider arch of fire, and greater angles of elevation and depression.

[General Dragosh]

I think the MG's need tweaked with a wider arch of fire, and greater angles of elevation and depression.

I think so too

[Sanirius]

Yeah, they pretty much only cover half of you while manning the MG and you're pretty vulnerable.

I think the MG's need tweaked with a wider arch of fire, and greater angles of elevation and depression.

I agree.
Also, the MGs are way to accurate. MGs IRL are designed to supress targets, you can only do that if the bullets spread out a bit. At the moment they all go in a straight line, like lasers or something.
I'm not talking much, but just a little more spreading of those bullets when fired would increase the realism.

Sanirius

[Tirak]

No, no more screwing with MG accuracy, what they did to the Coax was criminal.

[stozzcheese]

No, no more screwing with MG accuracy, what they did to the Coax was criminal.

oh your too bloody right!

they halved my insurgent smashing capacity with the warrior on basrah!
the 30mm makes up for it though =D

[Caboosehatesbabies]

No, no more screwing with MG accuracy, what they did to the Coax was criminal.

WOW, I've heard so many people complain about this, and all they really did was move it down and to the right abit, and gave it a small cone of fire.


ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS AIM A LITTLE HIGH AND TO THE LEFT ABIT AND YOU WILL KILL EVERYTHING!!!! Walk your tracers onto target if you can't get the feel down.

Jeeze, you make one little change and people say IT SUXXXS!

[Tirak]

WOW, I've heard so many people complain about this, and all they really did was move it down and to the right abit, and gave it a small cone of fire.


ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS AIM A LITTLE HIGH AND TO THE LEFT ABIT AND YOU WILL KILL EVERYTHING!!!! Walk your tracers onto target if you can't get the feel down.

Jeeze, you make one little change and people say IT SUXXXS!

I like the change of the gun position, but the cone of fire is terrible. Try playing armor on Basrah, and you'll quickly know what I'm talking about.

[Caboosehatesbabies]

I like the change of the gun position, but the cone of fire is terrible. Try playing armor on Basrah, and you'll quickly know what I'm talking about.

I don't know, I haven't had any trouble hitting targets with the COAX machineguns since about 2 days after .8 came out.

[General Dragosh]

I think coax is fine, thou i havent see a coax in real life that is as accurate as a sniper rifle with a lenght of 10 meters... so that means the spread needs to be added a little bit...

When i shoot at helicopters with a .50 cal , vodnik or similar - 8-10 seconds and the heli is a falling toast...

So yeah we need a little spread....i wish they would add that in the miniguns...

[arjan]

Lol gotta love Dragoshes signature.!!!

ONTOPIC: Yea would be nice to have abit more sandbags

[Sanirius]

No, no more screwing with MG accuracy, what they did to the Coax was criminal.

I actually just ment the deployable HMGs (.50 caliber) near forward outposts.. They're way too accurate in my opinion.

And yeah.. Haven't really gotten the hang of the new coax either, but that's an other subject.

Sanirius

[CodeRedFox]

ah finally a good one!

@ Sanirius

[AnRK]

Yeah seems a little silly that you'd be out in the open like that, you can deploy sandbags and such round them but it shouldn't have to be done.

I think coax is fine, thou i havent see a coax in real life that is as accurate as a sniper rifle with a lenght of 10 meters... so that means the spread needs to be added a little bit...

From what I've heard the things are pin point accurate, and on top of that they have laser targeting systems for the coax as well as the main cannon on modern MBTs.

I don't mind the dip and it being to the right slightly, that seems pretty reasonable to me, just the spread is a bit much for something attached to a god knows how many tonne turret that stays pretty stable when you fire a 120mm shell, nevermind a 7.62 MG.

[Tirak]

I actually just ment the deployable HMGs (.50 caliber) near forward outposts.. They're way too accurate in my opinion.

And yeah.. Haven't really gotten the hang of the new coax either, but that's an other subject.

Sanirius

I know exactly what you're talking about, I was using what the did to the Coax as an example. No change to MG accuracy should be made.

[Solid Knight]

Yeah seems a little silly that you'd be out in the open like that, you can deploy sandbags and such round them but it shouldn't have to be done.



From what I've heard the things are pin point accurate, and on top of that they have laser targeting systems for the coax as well as the main cannon on modern MBTs.

I don't mind the dip and it being to the right slightly, that seems pretty reasonable to me, just the spread is a bit much for something attached to a god knows how many tonne turret that stays pretty stable when you fire a 120mm shell, nevermind a 7.62 MG.

A lot of guns are accurate when you vice them. They have those robots that can shoot with insane precision when equipped with a SAW. The coxial guns on the tanks are essentially viced. There won't be any deviation from the weapon moving around since it won't be moving around.

[Dunehunter]

There may be a bit too much deviation on the current one, but the lasergun in the previous versions was just too good

[AnRK]

A lot of guns are accurate when you vice them. They have those robots that can shoot with insane precision when equipped with a SAW. The coxial guns on the tanks are essentially viced. There won't be any deviation from the weapon moving around since it won't be moving around.

Oh yeah, what I meant by accuracy was the accuracy of the barrel

[Sanirius]

I know exactly what you're talking about, I was using what the did to the Coax as an example. No change to MG accuracy should be made.

What they did to the Coax was move the barrel a bit, so it's not alligned with the cross-hairs. That's a little hard to do with an MG when you're behind it and looking down the barrel. It's the main reason the overall accuracy of a tank's MG has dropped. So you don't have to worry about this happening to a stationary HMG.

And of course the sandbags are too low and offer not enough protection.

[AnRK]

I don't think that's what he means though, the spread you get now is a far cry from the laser beam of tracers you got in .75 and before. The been a bit to a right doesn't really put me off cos I aim the MG with the tracers, well I used to before they were so all over the place it's not even really worth aiming properly at long distance targets, might as well just shoot in the general direction till they die.

Hopefully this whole sandbag thing is only a small tweak so they can fit it in the next release, seems like they've done/added alot to the deployables for .85 which should be ace.

And Sanirius, switch your NATO 1 badge to the new one, your showing up the whole army! What will people think of us?!