M14

Redneckman · Post by **Redneckman** » 2006-03-31 13:55

Well in my last post, some people seemed to agree with giving the engineers the M14 Rifle. For you soliders who don't know what an M14 is, it is a semi-automatic 10 or 20 shot rifle, that also has been modified to the M21 and M25 Sniper rifles. I think that engineers should be outfitted with the 10 round clip, with the normal iron sights. It would be an effective weapon, but not one that could really be abused. What do you think? (M14 is obviously an American addition only!)

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-31 14:01

somone needs the shotgun, it makes the enginner also rely on his team mates to take out long range targets but his shotty is very good at close combat (thou the shotgun dose need some sort of iron sights)

Redneckman · Post by **Redneckman** » 2006-03-31 14:14

Yes, but in most cases, take out the enemy if you can at longer range, and the M14 does pack a punch at close range too. Give the shotgun as a secondary choise, or give it to anti tank or something.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-03-31 14:28

shotty, shotty. THe M14 is soo old man, get with the times. It is heavy as well. I think they should have some small PDW or Shotty. THingy is right - it is the only class that really could have one.

Redneckman · Post by **Redneckman** » 2006-03-31 14:44

Top _Cat the great wrote:THe M14 is soo old man, get with the times. It is heavy as well.

What!? Even though its getting old, dosent mean it's bad. There are newer version and now, its not THAT heavy. Have you ever fired an M14, i own one, and trust me, it's so damn accurate and reliable. The M1911 is VERY old, but is still used by some forces, and is like one of the most powerfull handgun to see combat. Otherwise, the M14 is still suitable for combat, and yes there is an automatic, 20 shot type used too, if you want to compete with shotgun. The M14 firing 20 rounds, automatic, would take your shotgun to school!

But yes, i respect your opinion, i just see the M14 being a whole lot more versitile.

JellyBelly · Post by **JellyBelly** » 2006-03-31 14:54

Red neck. Engineers wouldn't be using an M14. Engineers are essentially infantry and will therefor be using the same kind of kit.
If an M14 is to be implemented, it will probably as a Marksman weapon. But thats only if the Devs see it as a good addition.

00SoldierofFortune00 · Post by **00SoldierofFortune00** » 2006-03-31 14:58

The SEALS, Marine Recon, Special Forces, etc. all use the M14 because it is still a good weapon just like the 1911. And if you give engineers a long range weapon, they will just fight instead of repair and do their jobs. We don't want them to get involved in the fight and have an advantage for long range which is the opposite of what they are suppose to do.

da.SPAWN · Post by **da.SPAWN** » 2006-03-31 15:12

at my time at german bundeswehr i was an engineer for repairing tanks
we got as standard weapon a G3, all tank personal was equiped with UZI

Campez · Post by **Campez** » 2006-03-31 15:53

I dont like the idea of giving them an m14, if you gave them a long range weapon they would just fight like normal infantry, and do not rapair tanks and stuff

Neuromante · Post by **Neuromante** » 2006-03-31 16:08

The M14 w\sights is not that much of an "uber" weapon. It takes skill to be used, so they would act just as their role suggests, but will have a good weapon to defend themselves.

snoopdogy · Post by **snoopdogy** » 2006-03-31 16:32

m8 give me m14 and ill hit a flower of a dears ear at 200m lol

no relly it wold be a ubar wepon tho if any one who is good in games such as ofp,aa,cod serise we are use to iron sites

Arikara · Post by **Arikara** » 2006-03-31 16:58

00SoldierofFortune00 wrote:The SEALS, Marine Recon, Special Forces, etc. all use the M14 because it is still a good weapon just like the 1911. And if you give engineers a long range weapon, they will just fight instead of repair and do their jobs. We don't want them to get involved in the fight and have an advantage for long range which is the opposite of what they are suppose to do.

My brother is Force Recon and they do NOT use the M14. M4 and M16A3 are the main assault rifles used by Force Recon. And if Force Recon doesn't use the M14 I severly doubt SEALs, Delta, Rangers, etc. use the piece of garbage.

ai17 · Post by **ai17** » 2006-03-31 19:03

The main weapon used by the US military is the M16/M4, so it only makes sense that the engineer be given the same. I think the Engineer should be equipped w/ an M4 Carbine, XM26 LLS, pistol, knife, wrench,and C4 mines or claymores. Give them less ammo though, only 2 magazines for each weapon, since the engineer is more of a defensive/supporting type class.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-03-31 21:08

I don't see why people want to give the engineer an M14. They don't even carry them IRL

Give him an M4 Carbine or M16

Post by **RikiRude** » 2006-03-31 21:15

im my opinion i think the shotgun is perfect, you give an ENG an M-14 AND mines AND the ability to repair himself a tank or APC? thats an uber class.

the shotty is perfect, and i think if we went for realism he would carry a PDW, but i like the shotgun, it just works.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-03-31 21:23

It says on the site these are USMC combat engineers... I guess they do have M-14s... well, some

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-03-31 21:27

well some are sniper wanabees.......

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-03-31 21:49

The M14 topic is a dead horse people continue to flog.

The M14 will not be implemented as a combat engineer's weapon in PR, but will end up in the game eventually.

The M14 is still in use only by certain personnel in different configurations. As a selective fire battle rile, it is used by US special operations forces in the Sage/Crane Enhanced Battle Rifle configuration designated as the Mk-14.

The Navy still uses it, too. It is often used for line-throwing during at-sea replenishment.

Various configurations of the M14 National Match rifle are in service as designated marksman's weapons in the Army (M21/M25), Marines (M14 DMR) and USSOCOM (M25).

USMC DMR

SiN|ScarFace · Post by **SiN|ScarFace** » 2006-03-31 22:16

Arikara wrote:My brother is Force Recon and they do NOT use the M14. M4 and M16A3 are the main assault rifles used by Force Recon. And if Force Recon doesn't use the M14 I severly doubt SEALs, Delta, Rangers, etc. use the piece of garbage.

see post above.

Glad its going into the game and not in the hands of the engineer class.

Zepheris Casull · Post by **Zepheris Casull** » 2006-03-31 22:20

thx for clearing up the facts with m-14,
a lot of people doesn't seems to even realize that these weapons were based on m-14 and called m-14 too old for usage.

i have to admit though, the first time i saw an mk-14 some time ago on the SHOT show, i was a bit depressed. Maybe because i have just grown to love my old m-14, and feels weird to see my old m-14 bastardized with picatinny rail and attachments plus full metal/polymer frame.

M14

What weapon do you think engineers should have?

M14