so much room...

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-02 22:23

i know this has been mentioned b4, but i think most vehicles in this game need to seat more people. look how much room is in the hmwwv

count the seats...

look inside the Mi-17 helo

This has to change. it looks like 4 could fit 10 people in the back of the heli plus 2 gunners, a pilot, and a co pilot.
the hmmwv has 4 seats and a gunner position plus the room in the back (maybe fit 2 more?).
Another question is why is the back taken off both the hmmwv and the vod? the vodnik is fully amphibious with that on and the hmmwv can be in water up to the gunner's hatch.
if hmmwvs or vods are ever made to give ammo like stated in some previous threads, then i can understand the back being taken off (for easy access)
IMO the hmmwv could be made to carry 6 people: 1 driver, 1 shotgun, 1 gunner, 2 passengers in seats and one guy in the back. either next to that guy or in the far back (currently the 4th position in the hwmmv) there could be boxes of ammo,grenades, mags, and AT rockets. sorry this is so long, its just annoyed me for the longest time

trogdor1289 · Post by **trogdor1289** » 2006-04-02 22:30

in real life the hind can carry like 16 people but can you imagine that many people parachuting on a flag.

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-02 22:37

lol yea. i think 9-10 people would be a decent number for balance's sake. 1pilot, 2 gunners, 1 squad in the back (10 if the copilot seat is added)

Redneckman · Post by **Redneckman** » 2006-04-02 22:57

ya but parachuting, dont get chute wrapped in blades...

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-04-02 23:12

That's why you do HALO jumps

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-04-02 23:27

Cerberus wrote:That's why you do HALO jumps

Not always. Static line jumps are performed from helicopters, also. Never heard of helicopters being used for a mass tactical jump, but they are used for paradropping small units.

The Mi-8/17 Hip can carry quite a few people in the back. The Mi-24 Hind, a rifle squad, but that is at the cost of some weaponry on the stub wings. What we would like to do is implement vehicles with operating rear ramps/doors and have "seatless" passenger compartments.

The HMMWV weapons carriers are also not arranged like that on the inside.

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-03 00:00

'[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker']
The HMMWV weapons carriers are also not arranged like that on the inside.

how are they arranged then? im all for realism

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-03 00:12

i know this is kinda random but i was looking at pics of the vod and i thought the in game model looks way too tall and narrow. opinions?
Real life:

As compared to the game:

Pliskin · Post by **Pliskin** » 2006-04-03 00:50

Yeah, the EA model does look a lot smaller than the real Vodnik.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-04-03 01:44

'[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker']Not always. Static line jumps are performed from helicopters, also. Never heard of helicopters being used for a mass tactical jump, but they are used for paradropping small units.

The Mi-8/17 Hip can carry quite a few people in the back. The Mi-24 Hind, a rifle squad, but that is at the cost of some weaponry on the stub wings. What we would like to do is implement vehicles with operating rear ramps/doors and have "seatless" passenger compartments.

The HMMWV weapons carriers are also not arranged like that on the inside.

Damnit, Baker, quit pwning me.

If you do implement seatless transports (which would be awesome), won't everyone die when the vehicle moves?

That reminds me, on the GH Test Server, I got two marines to get in the back of my HMMWV (I was Chinese), and looked back at them while they were prone in the back of the vehicle. They slowly drifted back into the air behind the vehicle, and I smacked into a building by accident, they came flying into the vehicle, and were both killed on impact

Yeah, the in-game Vodnik looks way too much like a van made by GMC

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-03 01:44

the real vod looks awesome. maybe something new for the MEC from PR, a legitamit vodnik

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2006-04-03 02:46

Perhaps you can cheat the system by creating a "new vehicle" inside the vehicle. Preferably for APCs and helicopters. Basically you add new enterable areas inside the vehicle. All the player has to do is walk inside the vehicle, find the correct "enter" areas and simply enter. This area is not really the same exact vehicle in terms of coding. However, its stuck to the main vehicle and will act as extra spaces.

I think something like this was done on BF1942's ships. It would even be nicer on APCs to have the main driver open and close the doors for players to walk in and take their places on these "secondary" areas. Same with boats as well.

What do you guys think?

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-04-03 02:52

I loved how they made the Higgins boats in BF1942. Wish the APCs could be the same in PR

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-04-03 03:32

six7 wrote:how are they arranged then? im all for realism

Well, here's a photo showing one being retrofitted with a gunner's shield.

(Hi-res)

It's not used like a pickup truck (there are other HMMWV configurations for that), the soldiers all sit in the crash attenuated seats or in the gunner's position.

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-03 03:53

so IRL are there 4 seats and a gunners position? i always thoguh the HMMWV seated more than that

Skullening.Chris · Post by **Skullening.Chris** » 2006-04-03 05:36

six7 wrote:i know this is kinda random but i was looking at pics of the vod and i thought the in game model looks way too tall and narrow. opinions?
Real life:

As compared to the game:

Wow, I never bothered looking up a real vod before. That EA model is waaay off. Definitely too tall and skinny and it's all jacked up like some rich kid's giant pick-up truck. That real one looks freakin' TOUGH compared to the wimpy minivan-with-gun that we get.

Post by **RikiRude** » 2006-04-03 05:52

yeah your right, it does look a hell of alot different. im all for the normal ones!

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-04-03 07:06

THe real version looks like it could hold atleast 8!!!!! maeby even 10

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-04-03 20:20

The real version looks like it would actually be on a battlefield and not driving 8 year olds to soccer practice