Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

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Doom721
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Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Doom721 »

I was playing on Fools road and the new Russian APCs ( BTCs? The big ones ) came by to pick up our squad and another, now half our squad started to "lag out" which we though was the server at first, but in actuality we all had dropped to about 5-7 FPS.

I want to start off with the fact we all have played the game through all releases without any "low fps drops" and I usually get 40-70fps regularly on all maps.

So we waited out the "lag" of the massive FPS drop and then it instantaneously ended about the same time for the three of our members, we hopped in the APCs and moved to a different part of the map.

The APCs left the area, still no more spikes, Now I had an odd issue, when I scoped in, or used my binoculars I dropped down to the random 5fps lag spike, and one of my squad members also was confirming via text "I can't scope in for some reason" We both later found out it was the 5fps drop??

Then as the APCs came for support and got into "blue nametag range" the big 5 fps drop started happening again, but the apc backed up about 10m, and the lag dissapeared.... then drove foward again and it returned.

I heard some players before mentioning some weird lag when APCs fired on Fallujah West and think it might be related to what happened to me.

EDIT: This is the only time this FPS drop has occurred to me in .85, and all other times around APCs or playing PR in general this never happened before.
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Re: Extremly Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by SocketMan »

Fools road and F.West have different APC's:
(Btr60's + BRDM2's) and (LAV25+Bradley)
Both maps can cause serious strain on the hardware recourses and
generally speaking the more the assets the lower the FPS -
relatively speaking.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Doom721 »

I just mean it was a bug with APCs in general, and it was not a "oh im lagging now" drop

It was like I was capped at 5 fps and instantly back up, and two of my squadmates who I don't know thier specs, had the SAME ISSUE at the SAME TIME - but the server as a whole was not having this odd lag.

I'm saying half the squad had the "slideshow 5 fps" cap that occured, only when the APC was in nametag range.

Whereas when it left, we all had an issue scoping in and using binoculars dropping at 5fps zoomed in and coming back up to 60+ fps when not zoomed in.

Wasn't a loss of FPS from "chatoic combat" or "too many assets" it literally felt like the server was lagging - but I went to check my FPS and it was consistently 5 when the APC came in range. The odd part is, it only occured to half the squad, but at the same time, then we all popped out of the "fps lag" around the same time.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by SocketMan »

try to recreate it on a local server maybe?
Also I noticed that all vehicles have a lot more smoke from exhaust -maybe that was the problem? (Frap it?)
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Epim3theus »

I had a couple of Squad members mentioning the exact same issues as you had, on Falluhja West, apc's and zooming.
If you can read this the ***** fell off.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by SFOD_F HaXXeD »

I've had this problem on fool's road, but I'm not sure about the APC part, I just had the major FPS drop when i pulled up my optics. Had to restart the game to fix it.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Doom721 »

Yeah the optics part of my problem occurred shortly after the apc problem.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by [EC]DR.NOobFragger »

Me and another guy had the exact same problem but in the LAV-25 and on Muttrah City coming out of the carrier.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by PlaynCool »

'= wrote:H[= HaXXeD;917422']I've had this problem on fool's road, but I'm not sure about the APC part, I just had the major FPS drop when i pulled up my optics. Had to restart the game to fix it.
Same here i restarted the game, and it worked...
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by SocketMan »

This is very similar I think:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f27-pr ... post917748


different forum section


seems like it's something to do with the BTR-60 (it's on all 3 maps that people
have these drops)


edit*
I can only suggest:bring back the BTR-90 :razz: or even better (and more realistic) replace it with BMP3

but seriously -seems very strange.I really want to see it for my self now :shock:



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Which server? (was it the same one for all that had this "drop"?)


Just remembered the Ah-64 on Basrah -caused some problems back in the days didn't it?
(probably irrelevant - surely the (btr-60) model was tested for a while)
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by PhiR »

I noticed i had pretty serious FPS drops when looking at moving vehicules due to the smoke/dust effect. Maybe reduce your effects settings ?
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Doom721 »

No no no Phir its not dust settings XD

And it was on the Chicago Hardcore server, but I've never had issues with them :P
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Ricardo-SC »

My problem was on the maps Kozelsk and Mutraah, playing in Brazilian Click21 server. My friend who was in the gunner of the APC was not the problem, only me. :(

Modifying some of the options for resolution can stop this problem,
if this is really what are the options for change?
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Outlawz7 »

Perhaps BTR60 needs some optimization would be my guess.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Doom721 »

What I'm trying to say it isn't a FPS drop, its an FPS switch, its not like "Oh im at 40fps now im lagging to 20-30 or something"

Its literally like server lag would be occurring, but its a 5fps CAP, I get 60+ FPS...

This issue occurs when SCOPING IN OR USING BINOS sometimes as well.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by PhiR »

I've played Kozelsk yesterday night with a few mates (on Thor's Brigade) and we *all* noticed huge FPS drops at the spawn when getting near the MBTs. Once inside the tanks it still felt laggy at times (our squad had 2 tanks so saw each other) but nothing compared to being outside, looking towards the tank at close range. This map was generally pretty laggy compared to others.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Ricardo-SC »

I do not think Kozelsk have lag, in fact the map is clean and worked well, say a beautiful map, perfect.

But the real problem is that the BRT-60, most do not know what to do to fix this, while do not find a solution for this problem unfortunately i have to stay off the BRT-60. :sad:
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Doom721 »

Update: Happened again on koselesk (sp?), both times it happened for me was when I was on the russian team..... same exact deal.

APCs drive down road get into blue nametag range, FPS caps at 11, apc drives off, normal 80 fps returns, scope in or use binos 11fps ...
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by McBumLuv »

Update, happened to me on Fools Road, (not just in this new version, either, pr 0.8 as well). When near/in and APC, my FPS will drop to a handicapping 10 FPS, likewise, it has nothing to do with the map, as being anywhere without the APC allows me to operate at 30/40 FPS. Coincidentally, as infantry away from any FPS-dropping APCs, I will usually get the 30/40 FPS, but when I pull up any magnified sights (on the gun or binocs), it alos drops to 10 FPS or lower.
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Re: Extremely Odd FPS Drop near APCs

Post by Doom721 »

Yeah after further investigation, its happened when two BTR-60s are realatively close, like 10 ingame meters...

Both times it happened to me, we were an INF squad who boarded the APCs left, and when apcs got close the bug occured :S
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