ACOG - Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight

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Stu007
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ACOG - Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight

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The Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight (normally pronounced ACOG) is a commonly used telescopic sight for rifles, particularly tactical and assault rifles, such as the automatic M16. ACOGs are manufactured by Trijicon in Wixom, Michigan.

In contrast to sniper rifles, which generally have special or hand-crafted scopes that can magnify in excess of 10x, ACOGs generally only possess magnification of 2x–5x (depending on model). They feature a tritium-illuminated reticle for nighttime use — unlike "red dot" electronic sights, such as the Aimpoint CompM2 (known in the U.S. military as M68 CCO), these scopes do not require batteries. The United States Army and Marine Corps both field ACOGs, and these models are assigned a National Stock Number (NSN) and GSA cage code. They are tough, durable, high-tech optics — and they are priced accordingly.
-wikipedia

Would it be possible to implement these, onto say, an M16 in game?

This of course would balance it out with UK forces if you so choosed to use the SUSAT sight.
The ACOGs are internally-adjustable, compact telescopic sights with tritium illuminated reticle patterns for use in low light or at night. Bindon Aiming Concept (BAC)* models feature bright daytime reticles using fiber optics which collect ambient light. The ACOGs combine traditional, precise distance marksmanship with close-in aiming speed. Although the ACOGs have many features which are very advantageous for military use, they were developed by Trijicon without government funding.
Designed for use with the M16 family, every feature of its mechanical and optical design was chosen for a single purpose: to provide increased hit potential in all lighting conditions — without failure-prone batteries.
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Post by Pence »

This is not standard for US forces, the British soldiers fit SUSAT as standard. Haveing said that they may be fitted to USMC players weapons for the suspected Recon class.
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Post by Cerberus »

I really wouldn't mind if a class (that was automatically given to the squad leader) had an ACOG 4x.
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Post by Wraith »

The ACOG 4x is fairly common in the SF community. Although the Point site is much more these days with all the attention that Urban training going on.
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Post by [T]Terranova7 »

Regardless alot of U.S forces are being equiped with optics on their weapons. Aiborne units, special forces and even some basic rifleman have optics on their weapons.
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Post by JellyBelly »

If this was to be implemented, I think it should be on a specialist unit such as the SF (or its replacement). Thus giving the class the ability to engage targets at range and spot out targets.
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JellyBelly wrote:If this was to be implemented, I think it should be on a specialist unit such as the SF (or its replacement). Thus giving the class the ability to engage targets at range and spot out targets.
I say keep special operations forces off of maps containing conventional forces completely. If you're going to have SAS, SEALs, Green Berets, GROM, or Force Recon, give them their own map.
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Post by [T]Terranova7 »

I agree with Cerberus. I know a few mods are working on an "objective" mode which would be a perfect fit for SF mission maps. Basically having an SF unit have to destroy a certain object, or retrieve some documents from defending force.

In other words I have seen may photos of Marines, Soldiers and what not carrying optics in general on their weapons. I don't think its too far-fetched for the basic rifleman to have an acog scope, aimpoint, vertical handle etc. on their weapons. Some photos below.

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Post by JellyBelly »

Yea. I personaly would like to see the SF kit gone too and replaced with a more workable kit.

As for scopes, I want an ECLAN on my SAW!

Christ, can you imagine that. The best weapon in PRM just got better.
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Post by Eddie Baker »

Pence wrote:This is not standard for US forces, the British soldiers fit SUSAT as standard. Haveing said that they may be fitted to USMC players weapons for the suspected Recon class.
The ACOG is fairly common in regular forces and is the objective standard for the US Marines. It will be in the mod as one of the possible optics fitted for US riflemen.
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Post by Figisaacnewton »

thanks eddie, i was gonna have t butt in and say that. practically every american solider in iraq who wants one of those has one.
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Post by Cerberus »

I wonder if the Middle Eastern Coalition's riflemen will get any optics or telescopic sights...
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Post by Figisaacnewton »

now that is actually an interesting topic of discussion.
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Post by [T]Terranova7 »

I would suspect that instead of carbon copying each sides arsenal, why not give MEC virtually much more powerful weapons. For instance we can replace the AK-101 with an AK-47 or AK-103. Both weapons use a much larger and heavier caliber round which gives the MEC increased lethality. 7.62 rounds FTW! :D
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Post by Skullening.Chris »

Yeah, I just now noticed AK-101s are 5.56! That's an insult to AK-47!
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Post by Sgt. Jarvis »

Which is another reason why it is not considered "downgrading".
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Post by K.Larsen »

Well yeah.. I sort of agree.

Make the M-16 what it is; far superior to the AK47 in range and accuracy, - but make the AK more devastating than the M16 in closer range.

Remember, in real life the AK47 has only 250 meters of range, as to the M16 with 800 meters of effective range!
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Post by [T]Terranova7 »

Don't forget reliability. The Kalashnikov rifles virtually never jam. Which is almost a must since the MEC are based in a desert region. If possible, can PR implement random jams and such on rifles.
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Post by Infantrigel »

K.Larsen wrote:..., as to the M16 with 800 meters of effective range!
800m? But not without an optic sight i suppose!?
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Post by Cerberus »

Infantrigel wrote:800m? But not without an optic sight i suppose!?
I just looked it up and apparently the M16A4 has a MER of 800 meters. Crazy!
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