BDRM better than a TANK?

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M4sherman
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BDRM better than a TANK?

Post by M4sherman »

On Alah qus-what ever We had all of our Vehicles taken out by an APC so the SL told us to grab AT kits . I grabbed the HAT because all of the LAT's where MIA.

So we go on are merry way to find mystical APC.

Then we get ontop of the water fall to flak N-O and we see him at 330 degrees he is sitting on the ramp that goes from N-O to S-O 120m, so I line up the AT and wait until it steadies.

Then I fire and my squad member throws me an ammo bag and says GS......until the BDRM DRIVES away!!! So of course It must have hit the Fence ,but he is out of our hair and we cap N-O 120m. but then he comes around from the east and I am sitting in a two story building so this time I wait until he is still and not behind ANYTHING!! then I nail him right above the drivers window on the top. and he turns around and takes a LAT before heading RTB.

now the first HAT hit was questionable but the second one was a 100% hit on the top followed buy a LAT to the side and he wasn't so much as damaged.


P.S we finally took him out when He nailed a fence and the unloaded 2 LAT's and a handful of Incendiary nades
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Re: BDRM better than a TANK?

Post by DankE_SPB »

what is the map? are you sure it was BRDM?
maybe make a video about it
imo you just missed him, because any apc ingame gets insta-pwned by HAT after direct hit, LAT-depends on apc and place to hit, but BRDM is very vulneurable, even LAT usually cause it to fire->blow up
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I think he means Asad Khal.
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Post by Rudd »

I think if u hit the lat dead on the front armour it has a good chance of survival
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Ok The first HAT hit was questionable but the second was a DEAD HIT. I had 4 squad members say What the hell! My theory was that the HAT coded to peirce XYZ amount of armor before exploding and that it might have gone through....but It DID hit and explode on the APC
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Post by Cheditor »

To be honest i think it is just something to do with ingame mechanics etc. On kashan gunning tank. A10 going ridiciously low, i fire AP round, me and driver see it hits the Engine, no smoke no death. Was a bit wtf at first but just learnt to accept it.
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Post by Solid Knight »

I've had rounds go directly through stationary vehicles before. Other times I've had rounds hit but not do any damage. I've also been hit and not taken any damage. This is a bug in the BF2 engine.
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Post by Celestial1 »

M4sherman wrote:Ok The first HAT hit was questionable but the second was a DEAD HIT. I had 4 squad members say What the hell! My theory was that the HAT coded to peirce XYZ amount of armor before exploding and that it might have gone through....but It DID hit and explode on the APC
1) Engine does not work that way, rockets in the engine (from my knowledge, although I am sure it's not as complicated as you say if we had that kind of sophistication, certain areas would be much more susceptible than they are, such as areas of the tank killing passengers inside, etc) do specific damage to specific areas of vehicles.

2) Account for user error. Perhaps you didn't hit it, even with your '100% guarantee'. Terrain in BF2 does have issues with distance, and perhaps you thought you hit it but the smoke from the blast obscured your view of your hit. You could have hit the ground directly underneath, which I have mistaked for a hit at glance before, or walls close to the vehicle, or even the ground infront of the BDRM due to the terrain glitching.

3) Account for issues with damage. Perhaps you did hit. Where precisely did you hit it? Surely the shot could be hitting a glitched area of the vehicle? Or perhaps an issue of lag/spikes/engine code failure/etc etc

This should help you determine your issue.
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Post by Gu^n3r »

yeah sounds more like you cant hit the brdm very well or you thought the destroyed wreck status was actually still alive.
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Gu^n3r wrote:yeah sounds more like you cant hit the brdm very well or you thought the destroyed wreck status was actually still alive.
i think i saw a wreck move on it's own without a hill.
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Post by nick20404 »

You can't really rely on tank rounds doing the correct amount of damage, I have killed a tank in 1 shot and I have been killed in a tank in 1 shot, other times I have shot a tank 3 times direct hits and its still alive and the same for me. I stopped questioning this after a while and just accepted that as something that happens allot.
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nick20404 wrote:You can't really rely on tank rounds doing the correct amount of damage, I have killed a tank in 1 shot and I have been killed in a tank in 1 shot, other times I have shot a tank 3 times direct hits and its still alive and the same for me. I stopped questioning this after a while and just accepted that as something that happens allot.
Usualy i have to shot 3 times to kill and die in one/two hits, no matter wich tank im on
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[R-CON]Hfett wrote:Usualy i have to shot 3 times to kill and die in one/two hits, no matter wich tank im on
ya it is pretty much gambling but I guess it seems more realistic that way.
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Re: BDRM better than a TANK?

Post by ChiefRyza »

Believe it or not hit rego applies to vehicles as well. I've hit many vehicles before and they show the hit animation but no actual damage is done. Happens in alot of tank battles sometimes, where I've pounded 6+ AP rounds into an enemy tank and it seemingly has no effect. Although a lot rarer than not, it still happens.


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Post by Hietaa »

nick20404 wrote:You can't really rely on tank rounds doing the correct amount of damage, I have killed a tank in 1 shot and I have been killed in a tank in 1 shot, other times I have shot a tank 3 times direct hits and its still alive and the same for me. I stopped questioning this after a while and just accepted that as something that happens allot.
It is all about where you hit them. Abrams goes down on 1 hit easily if you know where to fire. 8) All tanks go 1 hit on bombs. :mrgreen:
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Re: BDRM better than a TANK?

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ChiefRyza wrote:Believe it or not hit rego applies to vehicles as well. I've hit many vehicles before and they show the hit animation but no actual damage is done. Happens in alot of tank battles sometimes, where I've pounded 6+ AP rounds into an enemy tank and it seemingly has no effect. Although a lot rarer than not, it still happens.
most probable thing is problem with terrain rendering, sometimes at far distance you see tank, but its actually covered by terrain and you wont see it until you get closer
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Re: BDRM better than a TANK?

Post by RHYS4190 »

I think it a Hit reg thing, It happens a lot.
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Post by Zi8 »

Once on Fools Road a tank hit our tow apc (don't remember the name for it, anyway the one Russians have) directly to the front side killing me but leaving the driver alive. He managed to drive it back to main and get it repaired again :D Usually that thing blows up from LAT or even from 50cal fire

Things like that just happens. BF2 is surprisingly random sometimes
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Post by LithiumFox »

:] hey, weirder things happen in real life, right?

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Re: BDRM better than a TANK?

Post by M4sherman »

If the terrain is messing up at 30m we have a BIG issue :) . But If someone would like to join an empty sever with me we can test it out.

But it is starting to just sound like a weird glitch.
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