Black and White color for Apache guncam
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Hellbrawler
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Black and White color for Apache guncam
Just like in the videos, it shows the apache gunner screen having a black and white screen. Meanwhile in PR it's colored with a tint of green while the other attack choppers have black and white screens. Why don't we change it to black and white?
IF I am wrong just remove the thread, also I used the search engine and didn't find a similar thread.
IF I am wrong just remove the thread, also I used the search engine and didn't find a similar thread.
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Solid Knight
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
It's supposed to simulate night vision even though all the maps are during the day time.
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Rudd
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
that, and PR doesn't have FLIR sights, check out combined arms to see their portrayal of that system.Solid Knight wrote:It's supposed to simulate night vision even though all the maps are during the day time.
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CanuckCommander
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
Both of you are wrong. PR's version is to simulate the day cam of the apache. I can't find the video, but there is one that they based it on. It's a cockpit view showing the day-time mode with a green tint.Dr2B Rudd wrote:that, and PR doesn't have FLIR sights, check out combined arms to see their portrayal of that system.
But of course, FLIR sights are way more useful than a day-sight in respect to spotting and distinguishing targets. Check out combined arms for a cool and working FLIR views.
And also, what you see in those gun cam is not exactly what the pilots see. The videos in the gun cams aren't exactly the highest of quality. They are just for record keeping purposes.
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Rudd
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
yeah, they have that also in CA, but he was asking specifically about teh black and white stuffBut of course, FLIR sights are way more useful than a day-sight in respect to spotting and distinguishing targets. Check out combined arms for a cool and working FLIR views.
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Solid Knight
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
Never seen ab AH-64D with green TV. Seen black and white plenty (not FLIR).
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crazy11
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
The gun cameras are filmed in black and white while the gunner sees it in green.

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Solid Knight
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
What about the Cobra? I've never got to see a picture of their LCD screen. AH1Z is too new.
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mike653048
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
yeah they need to bring the black and white flir back. something like this....
LiveLeak.com - Realistic Apache Simulation
i do know that is vbs2 but still if one could make the FLIR/TADS like that itd be cool
LiveLeak.com - Realistic Apache Simulation
i do know that is vbs2 but still if one could make the FLIR/TADS like that itd be cool
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X1 Spriggan
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
Well, i dont exactly know what FLIR is but that last video is the advanced thermal imaging that they use. So if we had that in PR everything would have to be correctly portraying the thermal imaging.
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Alex6714
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
Afaik FLIR is not black and white, at least on the apache, it is shades of green.
The cam in pr currently I based on the video crazy posted, which is a close to real life as you can get. All the black and white you see is just gun tape footage and isn´t what it is like in real life, only a small bit. Its like basing the mod of an old black and white mime film...
That said in CA I changed it some more as we were trying to achieve the flir effect and it possibly is better.
As for the cobra, I get the feeling its in colour and flir in real life but due to the lack of colour refs I based it on the gun tape.
The havoc is loosely based on the black shark which is the only ref of a russian guncam I know, minus a weird Hind one, but thats different. Z10 is completely invented to keep with the chinese theme, because there is not references to it at all.
The cam in pr currently I based on the video crazy posted, which is a close to real life as you can get. All the black and white you see is just gun tape footage and isn´t what it is like in real life, only a small bit. Its like basing the mod of an old black and white mime film...
That said in CA I changed it some more as we were trying to achieve the flir effect and it possibly is better.
As for the cobra, I get the feeling its in colour and flir in real life but due to the lack of colour refs I based it on the gun tape.
The havoc is loosely based on the black shark which is the only ref of a russian guncam I know, minus a weird Hind one, but thats different. Z10 is completely invented to keep with the chinese theme, because there is not references to it at all.
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Solid Knight
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Re: Black and White color for Apache guncam
Yeah, I wasn't sure about the Cobra since they only mention color when talking about the LCD display. It doesn't specify the camera feed is in color. I didn't want to assume since the LCD displays things other than CTV and FLIR. The only pictures of the LCD screen I've seen have navigation data displayed.
I'm also sure they dropped the gunner's HUD that you frequently see in videos. I believe they use the HawkeyeXR which is similar in appearance--but noticeably different--to the AH-64D gunner's HUD.
Zulu Cobra is just too new to easily find this information.
I'm also sure they dropped the gunner's HUD that you frequently see in videos. I believe they use the HawkeyeXR which is similar in appearance--but noticeably different--to the AH-64D gunner's HUD.
Zulu Cobra is just too new to easily find this information.

