Reincrease the vehicle spawn limits in training

[Punkbuster]

Hello,

I just want to ask you to Reincrease the vehicle spawn limits in training.

In PR 0.85 there was spawning 2 from each chopper, but now only 1 spawns, so you can barely find a chopper in the helicopter training, Everyone is whining about it, so can you please make it the same as 0.85 in 0.9????

PS: I don't see any good side of this, as far as I know its training, which means somewhere to train.

Thanks,
Rudy,

[ma21212]

The other side always gets raped by 6 attack helis in training. now its 3 lol. still bad but still better

[Snazz]

Any developer comments on this change?

Mistake? Intentional?

[FuzzySquirrel]

The other side always gets raped by 6 attack helis in training. now its 3 lol. still bad but still better

This is one thing that grinds my gears (family guys reference not intended.) Is people complaining in training who are on mec about being base raped. When their freaking spawn is Bombing range. and the devs made the problem 10x worse in .85 by giving mec A spawn that's not enclosed. I mean, Are they trying to Increase baserape?

But I guess making stuff take longer in Training was the way to do it. I mean Every other spawn time was increased...

[Snazz]

people complaining in training who are on mec about being base raped. When their freaking spawn is Bombing range.

I think it stems from a fundamental disagreement over what training mode should be, whether it's one sided practice or a balanced fight.

The devs apparently intended training to be unbalanced (Going off Fuzzheads posts), however as you point out there seems to be exceptions like Quinling.

My impression is that the devs aren't fussed about training mode at the moment. That's fair enough in the sense that deployment matters take priority and that training is somewhat experimental for PR, however training mode is the first impression for most new players so hopefully they give it a closer look in future releases.

and the devs made the problem 10x worse in .85 by giving mec A spawn that's not enclosed. I mean, Are they trying to Increase baserape?

MEC can escape the bunker complex with a tank/tunguska so they weren't truely enclosed but relatively yes.

I don't mind MEC being able to drive tanks around most of the map, but ATM the AA can easily camp just outside the two airfields and rape.

[KYA]

NO man no increased spwn time training is for training and for fun dont ruin the fun like that

[badmojo420]

however training mode is the first impression for most new players so hopefully they give it a closer look in future releases.

I find that the problem is training is being played like a game of its own. And new players who join are confused. They join, see people trying their hardest to get some kills. People arguing over VOIP about spawn camping, etc. So they jump in a helicopter, or truck or tank or whatever, drive/fly a couple hundred meters and get massacred by someone. Repeat that process about 10 times, and they're not feeling too good about their skill in this new game, and i don't blame them when they don't even bother trying a real deployment.

I don't know how many times i've told people in training mode to go try the real thing. They'll be complaining about how bad PR is or how good they are. Hearing either makes me cringe, since training is a terrible example of PR, and being good at it isn't something to brag about.

It really is too bad that PR doesn't have a ranking system. So any new players couldn't play training at first. And they would be forced into servers with other newbies. After say 5rounds in the newbie server they would be allowed to try training and access to the rest of the servers. But i'm sure it's not possible.

On topic, I like the new spawn timers. But, i'm a person that will take a helicopter and fly it for 10-15mins before getting shot down or crashing. Coming back for ammo multiple times. One thing i wish they would change, is the DOD around airports, DOD around mec armor (why is there an area right beside their vehicles thats open?) Destroyable runways, and last but NOT least, make bombs not kill team mates.

[Snazz]

NO man no increased spwn time training is for training and for fun dont ruin the fun like that

You may be misunderstanding the suggestion.

By reincrease he means the amount of times the vehicle respawns after it is lost.

He is NOT suggesting the spawn times be increased.