Resupplying from an enemy crate

[BurkeSooty]

Hey,

Currently we can resupply only from a crate or ammo box belonging to one's team, however, if I were playing as MEC and nabbed a USMC sniper kit I would be able to resupply at a friendly crate, where only USMC ammo is stored, but still not at a MEC crate where the ammo I need is stored.

This is inconsistent.

I propose either that resupply is possible at all crates for all soldiers (irl, I can imagine captured supplies are used) as it was a while ago, or that when one has access to an enemy kit it is possible to resupply only at an enemy crate.

Of course this is something of a non issue, but it niggles at me. It's the little things, isn't it?

Thoughts/abuse?

[Spaz]

Thoughts?

I think the devs would have done it if they could.

[BurkeSooty]

I see what you're saying spaz, and thanks for replying, but I used a two pronged attack, either/or.

Reverting back to being able to ressuple at all crates would fix the problem, the current solution is in resupply limbo.

Is there a reason you can think of that makes being able to resupply at an enemy crate bad for gameplay or unrealistic?

[rampo]

I see what you're saying spaz, and thanks for replying, but I used a two pronged attack, either/or.

Reverting back to being able to ressuple at all crates would fix the problem, the current solution is in resupply limbo.

Is there a reason you can think of that makes being able to resupply at an enemy crate bad for gameplay or unrealistic?

I think its for gamplay reasons since for a player it would be a pain in the arse to resupply a weapon that of a stolen kit if theres only friendly supplies around

[killonsight95]

no it would ruin the gameplay i like it as it is

[Bamtoman]

You know the supply crate or ammo box is from walmart
So it got everything you need

[BurkeSooty]

Thanks for replying,

as for it ruining game play when there are no enemy crates to resupply stolen kit...tough. It's a pain in the arse when there are no friendly crates around, but it would be folly to get rid of the current system and have infinite ammo.

Killonsight, why would it ruin gameplay? Surely it would just make the game that little bit more realistic, and I don't think it would have a detrimental effect on gameplay.

bamtoman, ubiquity rules. One day, when mcdonalds and nike are the corporate sponsors of war and our soldiers go into battle wearing the latest in "just do it" technology, we'll all be loving it. Until then, make more useful comments.

[Dizakui]

It'd be un-realistic to be able to re-load ammo from an enemy supply crate if you were using your armys standard weapons. But I don't think it's possible to limit who the supply crate works for by kit rather than by team. If it was I think the devs might have put it in, but I don't know alot about the engine.

[[T]waylay00]

no it would ruin the gameplay i like it as it is

That's such a broad statement.

Yes, it might change gameplay, but it certainly wouldn't "ruin" it...

I personally like the idea of having all ammo crates usable. It's somewhat like a reward when you raid an enemy firebase and can reload off the ammo crates around it. That's just me though.

[Pronck]

or what about only reloading small arms, smoke and fragmentation grenades (exept rifle-mounted grenades loading at enemy supply crates. So you can't reload your sraw at the enemy suply crate because they don't have it in the supply crate, and reloading small arms will cost 2x more time then usually.

[BurkeSooty]

That's the problem, we can resupply weapons using foreign ammunition and it is unrealistic.

If it is hardcoded or just too much work for not enough gain than perhaps we could go back to universal resupply?

Why was it removed?

It would encourage players to be more careful about where they are dropping crates.

I suppose the main problem with it is that if we transposed the PR system into real life we'd be able to request enemy kits from enemy crates.

Personally I quite like the idea, it would encourage shrewder use of crates too.

[badmojo420]

We used to have universal crates that worked for both teams. I prefer this new system more.

You said it would encourage people to be more careful when dropping crates. It's already hard enough to get people dedicated to logistics on non-helicopter maps. Making the crates universal would only ensure less and less supply drops. Because now you have to defend those crates from being captured. Or being camped as the case would be in insurgency mode.

It just takes away more people from the fight, and puts them into a logistics or logistics support role. While I personally don't mind driving around dropping crates for hours, a lot of people hate it. And i don't believe defending crates is a fun thing to do in a game.

If you don't like the unrealistic idea of reloading another nations weapon on your nations supply crate, then don't do the unrealistic act of stealing another nations weapons for use in combat. Insurgents and Taliban aside, i'm sure it's against some rule to just throw away your M4 and take the G3 off the dead soldier you just killed.

Enemy supplies should be disposed of, not valued. And no team should get a free pass from bringing in logistics.

[K4on]

the actual supply system is still fine

[Expendable Grunt]

The universal crates used to be justified in the case of US/UK and MEC, even if kind of crudely.

The MEC Spec Ops had a certain 5.56mm carbine, so the US could get "ammo" from their crates. The MEC used 7.62mm ammo for their rifles, which the M14 / M40 used.

Sure, it's a tad flawed, but there it had some justification in a crude way.

M.

[TmanEd]

Maybe it could be coded so you could only take certain things from enemy supply crates, like field dressings, smoke grenades, and maybe pistol rounds, if they use the same caliber? Makes much more sense than being able to get amuniton from the supplies of an army who uses a different round than you.

Sounds like it would be hardcoded, or something, though.

[PlasmaSoldier]

This sounds like a suggestion

[Alex6714]

The best way to go about it is to get a teammate to fly a crate in, or drive one in...

[Expendable Grunt]

Or a rifleman.

M.

[jbgeezer]

I really like the current supply system. Besides, MEC, mainly uses 7.62mm ammo, while US mainly uses 5.56. The mec spec ops doesnt exist anymore, so AFAIK there would be no 5.56mm ammo in MEC crates. And both china and russia uses different ammo.

[Qaiex]

no it would ruin the gameplay i like it as it is

Complete bull...
What, the ability to get ammo a tiny bit easier is a game breaker?

It's not like you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an enemy supply crate or ammo crate.
As it is supplies aren't the most common thing on the battlefield, to the chagrin of the LAT-guys everywhere.

I think it makes sense to be able to get ammo from enemy crates, some of the stuff they use is interchangeable.
So maybe the magazines aren't the same brand, the bullets still are, so you could still just remove the bullets and put them in your empty magazines no problem.
Just make it take a little longer to reload from enemy crates.